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Please Critique Queenie's Conformation & Pedigree

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Here is Queenie, she is a 2yr old Quarter horse mare, and I would guess about 14hh. I do realize she needs more weight and her hooves trimmed, any comments good or bad on her conformation? I would also like you to view her pedigree and tell me what you think she'd be good at, considering her confo.Heels Freckle Queen Quarter Horse

Thanks!
Also anybody want to weigh in how much weight she needs to put on? I realize growing horses shouldn't be fat, but she is underweight in my opinion (lowest of the pecking order, and was getting pushed out).

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#30 · (Edited)
Oh my goodness!!! Thank-you for sharing your horse!:D I see some of the same features in yours as in mine...Like the super long face.:) Maybe it's just me but Queenie seems like she has a long face.

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Oh yes I've picked up on the "wicked smart" part. She has a great memory.

Can you share some more details of how your filly was (temperament, how much did she run)as a yearling/2yr old? Does she like to run now? Can she run pretty fast?

Say you don't happen to have a side shot of "Harlons Big Mac" do you? I am really curious as to his conformation and have recently asked them for a conformation shot but they never responded, didn't figure them too, but was still curious as to what Queenie will inherit as far as confo. The picture they had on their website was "blah".

Haha, that WAS an awful picture of Tawny, here are the fugly photos of Queenie that they had.
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Seems like to me they don't know how to take pictures of their horses. Some of their horses are well built and some not, but can't argue with their price if you get a decent horse out of it.

One of my favorite stallions of theirs is Laughing Pep San. I probably would have aimed to buy one of his foals had I known then what I know now about conformation. Have you seen on their website a weanling named "Lulu"? Now that is one I love to have in my barn, just don't have the space, and I'd have to wait another two years before I could ride her. She has Laughing Pep on the top and a mare out of Harlons Big Mac on the bottom....And she's black...Too bad!:cry: AQHA Black Colts & Fillies for Sale

And yes I've been trying to make Queenie gain more weight; I've got her separated from the other horse and pony, and have been making sure she has free choice hay and about a pound of beet pulp. She also has salt and mineral available to her at will.

Can't wait until next summer, do you suppose she could pull anything now? Like drag a log to get her used to some weight in preparation for, say a calf or cart... If nothing else to get her used to things coming at her from behind, and from the front.
 
#31 ·
True, Tawny is a bit long from eye to muzzle, but the rest of her is so well balanced it makes up for it. Her barn pic is probably the most flattering of her profile I have. Queenie may grow into her head a little, too. You have to laugh at the homely little baby pics, don't you?

Temperament-wise, considering Tawny had only been handled about 10 days before I picked her up, she was really level headed. She was a quick learner and willing. She wasn't one to race around all bug-eyed and snorty, but, under saddle she can get on it with a very light cue. Yes, she is fast, but never loses her mind with speed. Can't say enough about the mare, she's always been the brave one on trails when my friends' horses aren't - will go wherever I point her.

As far as what to do with Queenie for now, I would simply get her going on a lunge line and responding to verbal cues (if you haven't already); desensitizing and sensitizing with an assortment of objects and ropes; then on to ground driving...lots of that. Hopefully, she'll be as easy to start and train as Tawny!

I don't have any side shots of the stud, just these two I was sent way back when. I did see him in person (the breeders only live a mile away from my parents) and he was a big-bodied guy and laid back. That Lulu is cute, too. I actually went back a couple years later to look at another weanling filly...that's how much I liked Tawny...but, didn't care for that one's head, it was reeeally long.

Good luck with Queenie, she's a nice looking filly. If she turns out anything like Tawny, you'll probably be hanging onto her!


 
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I don't know if anyone has said this. But as far as pedigree, she's got Colonel Freckles in there. Quarter horse all of fame. Champion cutting horse. He was big! My horse is a direct grandson of him.
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#36 · (Edited)
I hope she will get upwards of 15.1-2 and stocky. She's also has got Bar Heels and Three bars not to far back, so maybe she's have speed and a love to run.

Wow... Just looked up Colonel Freckles pedigree... Did not know he has Three Bars in his pedigree!
 
#37 ·
shes beautiful! juswt see how off her withers it dips a bit into her neck? means she needs momre mumscle in her neck but thaqt will fill out with work, and see how from her croup to he dock its flat? that needds more muscle too. mbut all will fill out with conditioning and work :)
 
#38 ·
As far as work is concerned, what type can I do with her without riding? I'm waiting to break her in to saddle until spring/summer2014. She has been mainly doing groundwork such as lunging, disengaging hind & forequarters, backing, and whatnot.

Thanks for the compliment, I certainly think shes pretty!
 
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As far as work is concerned, what type can I do with her without riding? I'm waiting to break her in to saddle until spring/summer2014. She has been mainly doing groundwork such as lunging, disengaging hind & forequarters, backing, and whatnot.

Thanks for the compliment, I certainly think shes pretty!
She is a cutie!

My boy is a March 2011 model. I've put on about 10 or so walk/trot rides, but the weather is making sure I don't push him ;) Leading up to riding over our 9 months together, did tons of walking/trotting in hand at halter, with showmanship moves like squaring up/setting up, pivots & backing without lead pressure, some in hand sidepassing, bridge & pole crossing, in hand walks down the road and down trails for a change of scenery. Practiced saddling & unsaddling and all other types of handling from both sides, not just the left! Got him used to wearing bell & splint boots, shipping or standing wraps, not freaking out if my jacket was hung over the saddle horn and the wind blew it, etc. Practiced loading/unloading in a trailer. Introduced to the clippers (still working on this!) Lots of reinforcing that he must stand still for grooming, bathing, tacking, or anytime I tell him whoa. Sometimes just tying him up for awhile to practice patience, either at the grooming rack, in his stall, at a trailer, in an arena with horses working around him, or completely alone far away from his buddies. Did a ton of ground driving to get the steering in place; it's also a good way to lightly work him without stressing leg joints from lunging/round penning in endless circles. Ground drove around cones, barrels, over bridges/poles/downed trees, through wide gates and narrow gates, around the property, pretty much anywhere or doing anything I could possibly think of that I'd like to eventually do undersaddle.
 
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#40 ·
^^Thanks for the info, I've done a lot of the groundwork already such as saddling, trailering, bathing, respect exercises, such as what Clinton Anderson teaches and a LOT of ponying off our bigger horse Red. I've ponied her on roads, fields, ditches, woods, creek, around other horses/vehicles etc.

I'm waiting for spring to ride her as she seems to be a slower grower.
 
#41 ·
She is very pretty and she has really filled out since even your first pictures last August. I noticed "Three Bars", and my QH "Ro Go Bar" (1982-2009, RIP) had a similar build. He was a grandson of "Go Man Go."
If she is like my QH she should have a very pleasant sitting trot. But he was built downhill and couldn't really jump--more of a fast pleasure horse. He was also very lazy, but, after some reassuring by fawning teenage riding students he became a wonderful and quiet babysitter horse, at 15'3hh. I agree with waiting to back until next year and take it slow. Ro Go Bar had those TB legs and big feet. You wouldn't want to work her hard until the bones are set. =D
 
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Nice to know other people have had success with similar type bloodline horses!

Queenie is gentle, laid back, "honest" and very smart. I should say incredibly smart with an attitude to please. She also seems like she could really run. At first I just thought she didn't have the attitude to run, lazy and what not, but others have suggested that she just needs to get the hang of running/balance etc maybe just maturing a little more... Which I think might be her case. For an example, I've been ponying her off of Red for a couple of months, at first she didn't want to trot or run very much, was very bracey and maybe a little unsure. Now she is right where she's supposed to be, light on the lead line and canters right along side of Red. She still doesn't have the quick start like Red has or can go as long, but she is showing improvement. :)
 
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I'm hoping so as well, I see a couple other AQHA two year olds are only 13.2-3hh so maybe she isn't too far off being 2 1/2yrs (which would add 1-1/2")? Anyway I'm doing my part by feeding her, she needs to keep up her end :). Supposedly her sire throws 15.0-2hh foals, and I don't know what her dam throws, but assuming since her dam is a quarter horse and since she's got TB in her bloodlines that I would think her dam would be at least 14.3-15.hh?

Anyway we shall see.
 
#47 ·
Thanks for your opinion, on the good side of things I can probably get up on her fine, on the bad side 15.hh under is not very popular if I were to sell her. Oh well time will tell. I can't wait until spring/summer to try her out!
 
#48 ·
Anyway nothing to do with anything, but I re-measured Red, the gelding she is standing next to, and he is 15.2 1/2hh instead of the 15.hh I thought him to be (last time I measured was when we got him, he was 6yrs at the time).
 
#49 ·
So...she is NOT 14.1/2 hh...My math errors! She is 4' 10" which 4'x12=48", +10" =58 divided by 4"=14.5 which is 14.2hh correct? For what ever reason my brain transferred the 14.5 to be 14.1/2...Now I'm wondering if I measured the gelding right :think:.

Anyway if that is correct she may just reach 15.hh!

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