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        11-02-2013, 07:51 PM
    I have a May 2011 baby too, and she's less mature looking than yours. People think she's a yearling. So don't sweat it ;)
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        11-02-2013, 08:00 PM
    Originally Posted by EmilyJoy    
    Haha^^ Thanks, but shipping costs a ton. Could you enlighten me as to why she wouldn't make a good WP?

    The guy has seen photos of her so obviously he would know what she looked like as far as WP prospect, but really it's up to him. I was just curious as to why she would or wouldn't make a good WP horse.
    She is not bred for it. She will not have the right movement or head set to be competitive. I suspect her lope is much more "pretty" than her trot based on conformation. Typical of a using/cowy horse. She looks real 'quick' on her feet. Not typical or needed in WP.

    On a local level I think she would be ok for WP I guess. But why do that when she would make a better reined cowhorse?

    So much relies on movement and temperament though.

    I know a woman that has a reining bred horse she purchased for 25k and she decided to do dressage because the fast pace reining maneuvers scared her. The horse does it, but man it's a waist of a real nice reining horse imho.
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        11-02-2013, 09:20 PM
    She's a cute baby for sure, and a nice combo of running and cow blood. Might make a decent speed event when she's older. What are you feeding her? She looks so small for her age, but still well put together
        11-02-2013, 10:49 PM
    I'm feeding her free choice grass/alfalfa hay with about a 1# (guess) of beet pulp. It was recommended by our feed guy and some others not to do grain as it's not healthy for their hoofs/health. What do you recommend?

    You all really think she'll have some speed on her? I originally bought her to eventually replace my older mare, who could really run I mean book it(!), but Queenie is SO calm. Do you think the speed attitude will come later? That's what she was advertized as as a yearling, but when her temperament seems like a 20yr old I am beginning to get doubts. Take for example, dinner time, all the horses come running up...Guess who's poking on behind? You got it, Queenie. When I pony her off of my bigger horse, she always is quite content to lag behind like a poky puppy.

    Could it be with training she'll love to run? I know with my other horses they can get quite competitive when running neck to neck.

    As far as ranching/cows, I'll have to do a little research, and watch some videos on how to start horses on that kind of stuff. We do raise calves/steers so that could be an option down the road.

    Ha, maybe I should just wait it out until she turns 3 before worrying about how much spunk she'll have. Could be she's just immature?
        11-03-2013, 09:51 PM
    I've known a lot of laid back speed horses. My two year old is really lazy mostly, but she can really move when she wants. She outruns my three year old I got off the track lol
    I feed nothing but total equine to my girls. It's a grass based feed, no grain, so it's harder for them to colic off it, plus its way more natural. Great stuff. I have a few pictures of my two year old on my profile, and I'll post a picture of her at 8 months old when I got her. She has really really filled out and grown well on this stuff. She's 15 hands and about 950 pounds. Theres a website that has all the feed info here. Check it out Total Equine Performance Horse Feed
    I could write a novel on why I love this stuff lol
        11-04-2013, 06:18 PM
    Lopin N Paint, what type, in particular, do you think she'd excel at? As in, cutting, reining, roping...etc.
    Anything I would do with her wouldn't be hard core, but I could advertize her as being a more _ blank_ type horse, if I still want to sell her.

    Can't wait until she's three!
        11-04-2013, 06:50 PM
    Originally Posted by EmilyJoy    
    Lopin N Paint, what type, in particular, do you think she'd excel at? As in, cutting, reining, roping...etc.
    Anything I would do with her wouldn't be hard core, but I could advertize her as being a more _ blank_ type horse, if I still want to sell her.

    Can't wait until she's three!
    If you advertise/sell her now I would just sell her as a prospect for reining, reined cowhorse, team penning.

    If You had cows and wanted to get her under saddle (better price tags, easier to find good homes) I would just get her w/j/l circles and get her pushing cows around. Then I would market her for reined cowhorse and penning.

    With reined cowhorse and penning you can get away with an all around pedigree like hers.

    Anyone looking to be real competitive in reining and cutting would look at her breeding and move on. However on a local level I think she would hold her own with the right training.

    You could try her on barrels and speed events but her lack of bone would be a concern for me when looking at a long term career.

    If your area has a 4h that is good you could easily market her for that and I think she would make a good all around 4h horse for a kid that wants to do ALL the western events. (I can't picture her jumping real well) . Again given the right attitude and training.

    That being said, if you get her broke, you can always fall back on the good ole trail horse advertising. Since I think that has the largest clientele.
        11-04-2013, 07:56 PM
    Ah thanks for the info/advice. It gives me food for thought anyway.

    I think I'll have her up for sale until I break her in to saddle, then it's just a matter of whether I like her or not, if I still want to sell her. I doubt she'll sell this year though as usually most people don't buy horses going into winter...
        11-06-2013, 10:39 PM
    EmilyJoy - Just wanted to say I have a 10-yr old mare by the same stud (Harlon's Big Mac), different dam, as Queenie. She's the palomino in my "Barn" (Lotsa Freckled Flax). Bought her from the same breeder at 11 months. She is a super horse, more heart and try than most, and is wicked smart! I mainly trail ride, but always felt she would have made an awesome performance horse had I wanted to go that direction. She was super quiet as a youngster, but she is now actually more sensitive and responsive than any of my others. So, my long-winded point is...get some weight on Queenie and let her mature...she may work out just to your liking!

    Just for fun to show how time can improve...

    Fugly pic the breeder sent me a week before I picked up "Tawny". Mr. KSAQHA was like "You're buying THAT??"

    As a 3 yr-old...looking a bit better.

    And last October...
        11-06-2013, 11:33 PM
    Oh my goodness!!! Thank-you for sharing your horse! I see some of the same features in yours as in mine...Like the super long face.:) Maybe it's just me but Queenie seems like she has a long face.

    Queenie Side Shots 050.jpg

    Oh yes I've picked up on the "wicked smart" part. She has a great memory.

    Can you share some more details of how your filly was (temperament, how much did she run)as a yearling/2yr old? Does she like to run now? Can she run pretty fast?

    Say you don't happen to have a side shot of "Harlons Big Mac" do you? I am really curious as to his conformation and have recently asked them for a conformation shot but they never responded, didn't figure them too, but was still curious as to what Queenie will inherit as far as confo. The picture they had on their website was "blah".

    Haha, that WAS an awful picture of Tawny, here are the fugly photos of Queenie that they had.


    Seems like to me they don't know how to take pictures of their horses. Some of their horses are well built and some not, but can't argue with their price if you get a decent horse out of it.

    One of my favorite stallions of theirs is Laughing Pep San. I probably would have aimed to buy one of his foals had I known then what I know now about conformation. Have you seen on their website a weanling named "Lulu"? Now that is one I love to have in my barn, just don't have the space, and I'd have to wait another two years before I could ride her. She has Laughing Pep on the top and a mare out of Harlons Big Mac on the bottom....And she's black...Too bad! AQHA Black Colts & Fillies for Sale

    And yes I've been trying to make Queenie gain more weight; I've got her separated from the other horse and pony, and have been making sure she has free choice hay and about a pound of beet pulp. She also has salt and mineral available to her at will.

    Can't wait until next summer, do you suppose she could pull anything now? Like drag a log to get her used to some weight in preparation for, say a calf or cart... If nothing else to get her used to things coming at her from behind, and from the front.

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