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post #11 of 15 Old 06-17-2013, 09:50 AM
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There are these warm blood carriage horses that have become quite rare (the Cleveland Bay is one such horse). They were bred to provide a nice consistent type and color so carriage horses would be matched.

I am unfamiliar with this Latvian breed.

What has happened is that a lot of these horses.. bred for carriage work.. are not being bred anymore and the breeds are becoming rare.. or even extinct (some light draft horses as well such as the Suffolk Punch). The warmbloods that are being bred are largely being bred for sport horses and come from the ranks of former cavalry mounts. Meanwhile, the warm bloods who used to bring the guns up in massive hitches are being passed over.

I think this is a shame. These carriage warm bloods are often quite good horses with very stable dispositions.

I do not know if the Latvian breed is rare but looking at this horse I see a field hunter. His shoulder is a bit steep and he is over weight.. but look at the nice bone, decent hind leg and so forth. Hooves might be a bit long.. but what a nice solid horse all the way around.

I think the breeders of warm bloods for sport horses are missing the ball in not looking at these carriage horse breeds.

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post #12 of 15 Old 06-18-2013, 01:06 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks, Elana, that was a very valuable description. Carriage type LW's are not exactly rare or extinct around here, there are still several strong lines (the sire of my boy represents one of them), but carriage driving as such has become almost non-existent and there's very little activity in the field of competitive driving. So most of these horses are being used as riding horses and many lines have become a lot lighter in bone, being crossed with the riding type LW. Many of these horses also get exported to Russia, Finland, Sweden - for crossing with some of the much lighter European warmblood breeds, and giving them some bone, as well as a calm nature and a willing attitude. They often are used in riding schools, as well, because they are in general good learners, enjoy people, are very endurant and, although can get quite stubborn and are often born bomb-proof, they don't lack any energy and are in no way lethargic. So their popularity is very natural - it's just that over time people are starting to want a lighter, faster horse.

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post #13 of 15 Old 06-18-2013, 01:18 AM
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I think he is overweight. Up the workload to get more muscles and maybe lighten up on the grain. I don't think he needs all that much.
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post #14 of 15 Old 06-18-2013, 01:42 AM
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I like the horse . He looks good and solid, and I do not think he is overweight.
He is in 'good flesh' so it just looks like he needs to be toned .
Just ask your farrier to take off some toe and round it when he files and leave him some heels.
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post #15 of 15 Old 06-18-2013, 09:03 PM
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I don't think he was underweight in the first picture- he just didn't have any muscle. The second picture I think he is overweight, imo. His flank is completely filled in. I think he just needs more work :)
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