Possible Buy Grulla Colt - Page 3 - The Horse Forum
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #21 of 44 Old 02-17-2012, 01:21 AM
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,400
• Horses: 1
Brown in dark colored mane and tails is mostly due to sun bleaching, my buckskin mare has it to a degree:

Not saying it couldn't happen in the actual coat pattern, but I've never seen it other than being sunbleached.
trainerunlimited is offline  
Sponsored Links
post #22 of 44 Old 02-17-2012, 01:25 AM
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 5,153
• Horses: 0
Sticking by the "not grullo" opinion for sure now.

Foals often have a false dorsal, and other dun related markings, even non-dun foals. These primitive markings are part of a foal's camouflage. At the end of the day, dun is a DILUTE gene, it makes the horse's colour lighter. There are extreme cases that can appear to be normal coloured bays etc, but they are the exception, not the norm.

As far as "black grulla" goes, all grullas are black. There is some variation within the colour, but they are all just "grulla". It's the same as the difference between light bay and blood bay - shades of the same. They will still have the lightening of the body, and the primitive markings associated with dun factor.
NdAppy likes this.

Mods, grant me the serenity to see the opinions I cannot change, courage to change the ones that should change, and the wisdom to spot the trolls.
Chiilaa is offline  
post #23 of 44 Old 02-17-2012, 01:26 AM Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Somewhere in Wisconsin
Posts: 785
• Horses: 4
After some digging I was able to find a picture of his SIRE, cannot find anything from the Dams side besides normal pedigree information. Wishing I could find a picture. Sorry it's so small that was as big as it went! Still voting with most of you on here that he's not "grullo" ...

Walkers Major

"Every person you will meet will have at least one great quality. Duplicate it and leave the rest." --Clinton Anderson

Last edited by Annanoel; 02-17-2012 at 01:28 AM.
Annanoel is offline  
post #24 of 44 Old 02-17-2012, 09:43 AM
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 6,132
• Horses: 0
Exactly what Chiilaa said. "black" grulla is just a marketing term.

IMO the colt is black, not grulla.
NdAppy is offline  
post #25 of 44 Old 02-17-2012, 06:42 PM
Teen Forum Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: South East Texas
Posts: 7,157
• Horses: 2
How old is he, exactly?

From what I watched, he looks like the definition of a fugly yearling with poor breeding and training. I have no idea as to why they're lunging this early, if you can even call it that. Letting him canter around on a rope in circles, bucking and tossing his head is not what I would classify as lunging.

That aside though, its really just hard to tell. Not only because of the dark arena, but because of those winter fuzzies. My miniature horse tends to look like some sort of freakazoid pony during the winter months with every conformation error in the book, but when you shave her down she's actually a very decent little animal. He also wasn't squared and kept dancing around in the video. I did see poor LS joint placement, upright shoulders, toeing out in the back, and butt-highness. The butt high feature is totally normal for his age, and his legs might correct themselves a bit, but the other things will most likely not go away.

All in all, I wouldn't buy him even as an all-arounder, simply because he's already had a lot of bad manners drilled into his head and he thinks they're 'A-OK' right now. However, I won't say that for sure until I've seen better pictures. Its really just all together hard to see him in the video.

Everyone in your life is meant to
be in your journey, but not all of
them are meant to stay till the end.
Endiku is offline  
post #26 of 44 Old 02-17-2012, 07:39 PM
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 581
• Horses: 1
If you go and see guy and he looks like he actually has some "dun factor" make sure you rub him real good... I had a similair situation I went to see a little filly in Ohio ( a 4 hour drive for me) and the people were so desperate to sell her they used Show color enhanceing spray to literally paint on dun factor. The sad part was it looked legit, and I wouldn't even have known it was fake if i hadn't of rubbed my hand down her neck... her beautiful chocolate brown barring came off. Long story short alot of "breeders" think their hot stuff and they produce champion foals... when really they are are just back yard breeders that give themselves a fancy title to make up for all the crap that they tell you. A good breeder wouldnt be pushing the "Oh my foal is sooo Rare" card as hard as this person seems to be, they would let the foal speak for itself. Im not saying this specific foal couldn't be worth a trip, because I've seen some great things come out of a terrible situation. I've seen some pretty odd shades of Grullo/Grulla, but IMO he definitely doesn't look it! Good luck with this little guy! Hope all turns out well :)
Kansas Spice Girl is offline  
post #27 of 44 Old 02-18-2012, 10:13 PM
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,425
• Horses: 6
Anyone ever seen a mouse in their life time? That is grullo, but this colt certainly is not grullo. Even an untrained eye can see that. He is bleached out, making it hard for me to tell whether he is brown or black. Though because Chilla has said he is black, that is probably the case.

If he interests you, go for him. He isn't something to write home about, but he isn't unappealing.

With the lunge (spelling?) line part... um? They should have just left that out of there and practiced their skills a little bit. :/ I've seen worse people at vo-tech do that better. I see nothing wrong with lunging a yearling.. Heck, at vo-tech we lunge weanlings. Just.. know what you are doing before you do it.
Ladybug2001 is offline  
post #28 of 44 Old 02-19-2012, 12:37 PM
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,400
• Horses: 1
Did you go look at him yet? What did you think?
trainerunlimited is offline  
post #29 of 44 Old 02-21-2012, 12:23 PM
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Middle-of-Nowhere, Illinois
Posts: 2,225
• Horses: 1
I don't care if he's grullo, black, green, or purple. His hindquarters are really weird. His hip angle looks off to me and he looks sickle-hocked. Poor leg conformation makes me nervous. I'd pass on this one.

"A musician must make music, an artist must paint, a poet must write, if he is ultimately to be at peace with himself.
What a man can be, he must be.
" Abraham Maslow, 1968
Jessabel is offline  
post #30 of 44 Old 02-21-2012, 01:54 PM Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Somewhere in Wisconsin
Posts: 785
• Horses: 4
Have not gone out yet, the lady selling him is really beginning to go overboard. She continues to email and call, preaching the "rare black grullo" it's just crazy. I wish like some of you had said, she'd let him speak for himself so to say..It is a far drive, but the more she continues to go on, the more it turns me away. We'll see what happens in the next few weeks still waiting on the new pictures and video.
Kansas Spice Girl likes this.

"Every person you will meet will have at least one great quality. Duplicate it and leave the rest." --Clinton Anderson
Annanoel is offline  

Quick Reply

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

User Name:
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:


Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.

Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Grulla Roan! Lakotababii Horse Colors and Genetics 16 02-02-2012 03:15 PM
What is grulla? paigeyluvv Horse Colors and Genetics 5 08-31-2011 12:15 AM
My 07 Grulla Filly FoxRidgeRanch Horse Pictures 7 07-30-2010 12:30 AM
Romeo - 2009 Grulla/Grullo Paint Stud Colt ModernDayCowgirl Horse Pictures 15 06-15-2009 01:07 AM
What do you think of this colt?? Grulla AQHA FoxRidgeRanch Horse Riding Critique 14 04-10-2009 10:16 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome