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    01-21-2012, 02:51 PM
Possible buy- Help needed.. I'm rubbish!

Any info would be greatly appreciated.
The pictures are what you see, and there is a tab across for videos. Not so much for the jumping, more for dressage, but heck.. they're both there.

I noticed something funny about the hind legs??? Maybe just me!


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    01-21-2012, 02:58 PM
From what I can tell in the pictures (though it is hard to tell because none of them are from the right angle to get a good look ), it appears that he may be fairly cow-hocked. I won't comment on much of the vids because I don't know much of anything about Dressage, but it appears that he is not reaching up under with his hinds as far as I would expect. Then again, I don't speak the language so I have no idea what level of training he has.
    01-21-2012, 03:01 PM
The photos show rather upright rear pasturns and more toeing out than is typical. However, the video shows very nice movement , as far as I can see.

You would buy this horse , in addition to Duffy?
    01-21-2012, 03:04 PM
The breeding looks good. Weltmeyer and Bolero in the lines would point towards a "go-ey" horse.
I'm not impressed with him overall though. He is 6 and the videos show a weak horse whos gaits are not as developed as I would expect from a 6 year old horse. The canter is especially flat, and the lack of ease over relatively small fences would lead me to beleive he has a weak hindend.
The hocks are good, but the angles in the hindlimbs are weak, the stifle is positioned very high. The front end is decently conformed.

I, personally, would not purchase the horse for myself. After a few years of training, depending on his temperment, he could make a good amateur mount.
    01-21-2012, 03:09 PM
I spoke to my trainer today in earnest.

Don't shoot me.

I've given Duffy a good 7 months bringing her on, and training her. She's a fab horse. HOWEVER, my trainer feels that in the long run she is going to struggle in the dressage arena. She'll be able to do the moves, but build wise she's more jumper than dressage. And with her pigeon toes, she doesn't think she'll get there.
I need to start looking at this as a sport for me, and not a pet... and we're give her 6-8 weeks, good training, more canter work, and speak again, but I have a gut instinct this is where its going to go.

I'm just looking on the market at the moment to see what there is available. Ingrid reckons she'll sell for about 5000, I bought her for 3800, so not too bad. May even be cheeky and say 6, drop to 5500.. she has a nice personality ;D

But, looking at what is available on the market.. I could probably go up to 6000, or save for a while and go to 7/8000... IF I really saved.. but that's talking end of summer, and I don't know if I can be horseless that long!

Thanks for looking guys... no one to one swap there then!

And Anebel, I'm not so bothered about the age (providing its not just broken in at 10 muahaha) I'm looking for a project horse in the long run that I can do some dressage with... eventually!

Thanks for looking guys.
    01-21-2012, 03:12 PM

Incase anyone wants a peek, this is all the horses within my 3-6000 price range, height 158cm-176cm (Really don't want any bigger!) and age 4-10 'dressage' horses. You may be able to tell.. but I can't see many I would look at right now :(

If any of you do, PLEASE post. You never know..
    01-21-2012, 03:20 PM
The horse you posted is no better than Duffy, and the fact he can't jump (really) means he's going to be worth even less than her if/when you decide he is maxed out. So you would just have bought another Duffy. Why not, instead of "settling" for a horse buy a 2 year old, train your current horse for as long is reasonable and when the 2 year old is 4 and being ridden, have your current horse up for sale at an optimistic price. You can still learn a lot even from a horse who is "ungifted" in dressage, and by purchasing a horse younger, you are getting a higher quality horse for less money. Always, always make sure you are "buying up" and not settling for the same quality as you have now.

As far as for finding a horse, your trainer is going to be your best resource.

Good luck!
    01-21-2012, 03:24 PM
Thanks... but I don't have the funds, nor the education under saddle to a) own two horses or b) have an unbroke horse to bring on myself.

I understand where you're coming from, I was just browsing and he was the only one that caught my eye. Good job I've got you guys here to stop me travelling here there and everywhere ;)

Its still not a given that I will sell her, but its looking more 70% I will, if I'm honest. She is a lovely horse, nice movements, just not built to do the job as well as I would have liked. My own fault in the long run, I really let my heart rule my head.

And trainer is best resource, however she is EXTREMELY biased ;D I tried out a Davingnon mare- we just didn't click, and she was green broke at 10. I passed, thankfully as we just didn't match.. but she's taken her new owner L jumping and dressage in the past six months already.. you win some, you lose some!

Buying up.. heck.. I need to learn more conformation!
    01-21-2012, 03:31 PM
Uuuugh I am looking at that website you posted just now. I hate you lol.
Those prices are cheap cheap cheap and the horses are 10x nicer than things priced double here.

The 4 year old Hano I reeeeally like. He's a Rascalino - <3 that line, WITH the Welt Hit - I would SERIOUSLY be looking into him. I think he will be a good horse and he already looks stronger behind than that 6 year old you posted.
Kayty, MoodIndigo and omghorses like this.
    01-21-2012, 03:31 PM
Okay... so, what about this guy? As far as I can see he's only just under saddle, I like the canter? Trot and consitency needs work, and the picture isn't clear for confo.

TIA.. again!
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