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        04-26-2012, 01:22 AM
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    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Kayty    
    Unfortunately no one can give you any kind of a critique from these photos, you can't see anything other than that he's a dark horse ;)

    Flytobecat, they're bred as carraige horses and generally not looked upon terribly favourably as dressage horses, though some are breeding friesians that are more towards a sport horse type than your typical baroque types.
    I'd have to disagree, at least here in the states they are favorite mounts for a lot of things, primarily dressage or bred with other breeds such as TB to get Friesian Sport horses...which are often used as Dressage and eventing horses. The last schooling show I went to had at least 15 Friesian crosses and 4 Freisians, all did very very well in their classes in 65% and above.

    And I have also heard they make fun and honest trail horses.
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        04-26-2012, 02:27 PM
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    And I have also heard they make fun and honest trail horses.

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        04-26-2012, 02:39 PM
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    Originally Posted by Cinnys Whinny    
    I'd have to disagree, at least here in the states they are favorite mounts for a lot of things, primarily dressage or bred with other breeds such as TB to get Friesian Sport horses...which are often used as Dressage and eventing horses. The last schooling show I went to had at least 15 Friesian crosses and 4 Freisians, all did very very well in their classes in 65% and above.

    And I have also heard they make fun and honest trail horses.
    Sorry but I tend to agree with Kayty.

    Most Freisians are not conformed to be good higher level dressage horses. They are a carriage horse. There are SOME Freisians who are bred more towards a sport horse type (a friend of mine has her Freisian up to GP - but he is bred to the 9s) but MOST Freisians, especially a backyard bred $10,000 Freisian, are not this type. A nicely bred, correctly conformed for dressage Freisian at 5 y/o and well started would run you over $30,000 easily and even then the very nice ones are few and far between.
    I have both done dressage and evented low levels on off breed horses and won quite a few championships. Low level championships and high scores are a relatively moot point when discussing suitability for high level performance. Anything with 4 legs that is ridden quietly and accurately through a first level test has the potential to get a 65%.


    Generally, Freisians tend to be flighty and very strong in the hand and I would not recommend one (in general) for a new or timid/nervous rider. As a trail horse I don't know how well they would fare just because of their hair and large hooves. IMO Freisians look pretty, are very intelligent and can be a fun mount for an experienced rider, but as far as a performance horse leave much to be desired. Good luck!
         
        04-26-2012, 02:41 PM
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    Sorry but I tend to agree with Kayty.

    Most Freisians are not conformed to be good higher level dressage horses. They are a carriage horse. There are SOME Freisians who are bred more towards a sport horse type (a friend of mine has her Freisian up to GP - but he is bred to the 9s) but MOST Freisians, especially a backyard bred $10,000 Freisian, are not this type. A nicely bred, correctly conformed for dressage Freisian at 5 y/o and well started would run you over $30,000 easily and even then the very nice ones are few and far between.
    I have both done dressage and evented low levels on off breed horses and won quite a few championships. Low level championships and high scores are a relatively moot point when discussing suitability for high level performance. Anything with 4 legs that is ridden quietly and accurately through a first level test has the potential to get a 65%.


    Generally, Freisians tend to be flighty and very strong in the hand and I would not recommend one (in general) for a new or timid/nervous rider. As a trail horse I don't know how well they would fare just because of their hair and large hooves. IMO Freisians look pretty, are very intelligent and can be a fun mount for an experienced rider, but as far as a performance horse leave much to be desired. Good luck!
    As I said , he would ONLY be used as a trail horse .
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        04-26-2012, 03:13 PM
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        04-26-2012, 03:27 PM
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    Green Broke
    His hind end looks a little small for his body, but it's likely to be a muscling issue that can be fixed with a little frequent hill work. I like him.... just watch for burrs and the such in all that long hair.
         
        04-26-2012, 03:31 PM
      #17
    Foal
    Okay, just so everyone knows, I L O V E friesians! So, my post may be biased LOL ;)

    If you do ride him on trails and his feathering becomes an issue, either trim it or simply put boots on him that holds back the hair.
    Other than a small butt, I love the look of him. I say, snatch him up. If you can afford him, why not?
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        04-26-2012, 04:00 PM
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    Yearling
    I agree with the MadHatter, I would snatch him up if you can! He seems like a doll, what is his personality like? To rant here though, with what some others have said. I do agree that if you're selling a horse for 10k you'd think you could have proper conformation shots and just better pictures at that...for that much maybe even a video.
         
        04-26-2012, 04:14 PM
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    As I said , he would ONLY be used as a trail horse .
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    Yes, just clearing up some commonly held misconceptions on the breed.

    I don't know how suitable the Freisian is for a trail horse because they are a flighty and strong breed and are generally not built for long trail rides over rough terrain.
    The new pictures show a horse with a long back and weak loin and overall haunch. Plus his expression does not exactly scream "I'm a calm trail horse".

    Depending on the intensity of trail riding you are planning on doing he could be OK. But $7500 is a lot to pay for a pleasure horse, as flashy as he is. You could likely find a more suitably bred horse, albeit less flashy, with more miles for half the price.
         
        04-26-2012, 05:03 PM
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    Showing
    I can't speak for the temperament of the breed because I've never handled one, but I can say that I really don't like the way he looks. He has a very long, weak back and very weak hindquarter. For someone asking 5 figures for a horse that is supposedly broke, you'd think they could get some pictures/video of him being ridden too.

    Either way, I wouldn't buy him, not for $7500, not for $750. His back is just too weak for anything I could possibly want on my place.

    Oh, and what, exactly, does "3/4 broke western" mean? Does he w/t/c both directions and pick up the correct leads? Does he neck rein well? Does he sidepass/leg yield well? Has he been a lot of miles on rough trails? Does he keep a calm temperament about him in extreme circumstances? If the answer is "no" to any of those, then I would consider him green broke at best.

    If I was going to plop down that much money in this market, I would **** sure want something more than a bit of flashy hair and the claim that "I own a <somesuperspeshulbreed>".

    For that kind of money, you can get pretty much any other breed with tons of trail miles, training out the wazoo, a show record, and a calm git-r-done temperament. The type of horse you can take and do just about anything on whether it's plodding on trails or chasing wild cattle through the brush....then turn your kids loose on him the next morning and never have to worry.
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