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    01-02-2013, 09:03 PM
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Even though I'm not actively looking for a horse at the moment, I do like to surf a few websites just to see if anything interesting pops up. I've noticed this Appaloosa's ad two or three times over the past week and every time I see it the little guy grows on me. I don't know why, there is just something sweet about his face.

Anyway, I have pretty limited knowledge of conformation and how it affects the way the horse moves. I can tell if something looks wrong, but I couldn't tell you what unless it was glaringly obvious, and I probably couldn't say why either. This guy looks pretty well put together in my opinion, but I don't really trust my opinion, haha! I'd rather hear some of yours. I know the pics aren't great (the under saddle one actually sucks), but they are the only ones on his ad.

He is 7 years old, and the ad doesn't say how tall. Quiet, great trail horse, w/t/c, goes barefoot. I would be turning him into a mainly hunter mount, but I like trying new things so odds are he'd do a little bit of everything.
The asking price is $1,800.

And the riding one.
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    01-02-2013, 09:08 PM
Looks like he could be a cute little hunter with some conditioning. I wouldn't pay 1,800 for him from his looks, though. Is he registered? Shown? Sound? If he is registered and sound I would say 1,000 in his condition, tops.

Looking forward to pics of you two in the future ;)
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ETA: Condition: he has really no muscling and that will take time and hard work to build up. He looks sturdy and has a cute, clunky head (I like that in a horse - some people like refined, delicate faces... to each their own). Nice conformation for the most part. Just needs miles and protein to build muscle and balance.
    01-02-2013, 09:17 PM
My guess would be not registered, as that is usually the first thing in the ad if they are (at least in my area). He is sound, and I'm not sure if he's been shown. I haven't contacted the seller yet, because I want to talk to my instructor first and see what was said on here.

Really? I've seen horses in worse shape than him for a lot more. Pricing is fluctuates depending on where you are though, and I am deep in the rich man's horse country. Everything costs an arm and a leg here.

Yeah, I love the big thick heads. He reminds me of a QH, and I am definitely a QH girl. Thanks for your input!
    01-02-2013, 09:30 PM
In this economy, anything unregistered is worth just about zero, unfortunately. I would pay maybe 1,000 but unregistered means you can't do much with him. I don't know ApHC (that is the abbreviation, right? LOL) rules for reg, but perhaps Pinto Assoc? I don't know.

He is cute, and personally I think he is worth 1,800, but without papers and factoring in PPE and time to just build muscle (not including the discipline specific training), he's not worth that price. Does that make sense?
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    01-02-2013, 09:59 PM
Way too much money. You can get a registered solid bred paint with incredible bloodlines for $1500 or less and go much further in the hunter field.
    01-02-2013, 10:04 PM
Hmm.. I would call and ask if he is Papered or Grade. Is he actually 'kid' safe.
I he is gentle , broke, well trained, I would offer them less but not 800 less.
He needs some grocery and muscles. Good luck.
    01-02-2013, 10:23 PM
@RunSlideStop: Yes, that does make sense. I don't regularly show, so being registered doesn't mean a whole lot to me, though it would be a nice bonus. Mostly I'm looking for a nice horse that can relax on a trail ride, and do some local fun or hunter shows.

@oh vair oh: Maybe out in California, but here in Virginia you can't find what you just described for less than $5k. I rarely see papered horses for less than $3k, fit or not.

@stevenson: That's a good idea. My only hesitation for offering less is that the ad already says 'price reduced'. So I'm not sure they're willing to go down. I know the worst they can do is say no, but I'm funny about that sort of stuff.

Thanks for the input guys! I'll definitely be talking to my trainer about him as soon as possible.
    01-02-2013, 10:49 PM
I just wanted to say, don't be afraid to go down on the price even if you are comfortable with what they are asking. My husband bought a building that was reduced to $250,000 and lowballed them down to $180,000. Buildings and horses are different, I know, but if they want to sell him, they will and you can use that extra money towards horsey stuff
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    01-03-2013, 10:01 PM
His feet will need a lot of work as well, so that can help at the negotiating table

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