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        08-30-2013, 08:25 AM
      #11
    Trained
    I would be really careful with the first one-even "checking for nads"-remember-he could be crypt. He is definitely well fed, that is for sure. I would be anxious to get more info and probably would go see both. I believe in kissing lots of frogs. Look and learn.
         
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        08-30-2013, 08:42 AM
      #12
    Green Broke
    First horse is a paint, not a QH and he is body heavy and leg light. I bet he is not good about being tied considering how he is tied. He is straight thru the hocks and looks a bit back at the knee. Flashy color....

    Second horse is for real. A little down hill in build but what a nice nice animal from those pictures. Love to see the pedigree. With all that Cash he may be very quick on barrels. Looking at him I suggest his limitations will be related to his handling and training, not to his ability. Sooo.. train him well if you get him. He looks awesome.
         
        08-30-2013, 09:19 AM
      #13
    Yearling
    Maybe it is the angle of the pic and admittedly I am not QH savvy and do know QH are renowned for their rumps, but, the sorrel looks to be all rump with near TBred in front. The head, neck and shoulder look tiny as compared to that back end.
         
        08-30-2013, 10:22 AM
      #14
    Yearling
    Hmmm....
    Couple of things I would do:
    1.) Check if that first one is a stallion or not. Looks it.
    2.) Check that the second one isn't a stallion either. He doesn't look it, but add doesn't say if its a gelding or a stallion. Just says its a 'he'.


    That first one isn't a quarter horse by any means ;)
         
        08-30-2013, 10:32 AM
      #15
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by CandyCanes    
    Hmmm....
    Couple of things I would do:
    1.) Check if that first one is a stallion or not. Looks it.
    2.) Check that the second one isn't a stallion either. He doesn't look it, but add doesn't say if its a gelding or a stallion. Just says its a 'he'.


    That first one isn't a quarter horse by any means ;)
    I have been talking to the owner of the second one, he is a gelding.
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        08-30-2013, 11:17 AM
      #16
    Started
    Well charros make their horses fast. The man I got my horse from had a grad appy mare. He kept her stalled unless he was riding, and fed her sweet feed and a butt load of alfalfa. Needless to say she was a little nutty.
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        08-30-2013, 01:24 PM
      #17
    Teen Forum Moderator
    I'd be very, very cautious about who owns/trains any horse that you buy in this area. I see that both horses are located in Houston/Katy which is where I live so I am familiar with the trainers and owners in the area. Many, many horses (especially on craigslist) have been Hispanic trained, and while the horse itself may be good, the training often leaves a lot to be desired. Especially since they tend to move very fast, not go through the basics, and use force (strong bits, tie downs, etc) to get the animals to work. Not all of them do ofcourse, but I have seen far too many Hispanic trained horses in this area that were ruined to not be wary.

    Is there a particular reason that you are looking on Craigslist? The second gelding is very nice if he truly is as nice of a ride as they say he is, but I wouldn't touch that first horse with a ten foot pole.

    What are you looking for besides a hot/spirited horse? Age, gender, finished, green broke, started on the pattern? I have a few barrel racing friends in the area who might be able to get you some good contacts, and one way to look for a horse is going to some of the rodeo meets in magnolia, katy, waller, etc., because then you can see the horse running the pattern for yourself, and if the animal is for sale most of the time the more experienced racers/sellers are willing to let you try the horse.
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        08-30-2013, 02:30 PM
      #18
    Weanling
    I love the look of the paint. Yeah, I may not be a great person to ask about correct conformation, but he is what I look for in a horse. Stocky, powerhouse, thick legs. To me he looks pretty well put together, and could get around those barrels quickly... as well as rope a bull lol I'd go look at him anyway, hope he isn't a stud yet.
         
        08-30-2013, 03:01 PM
      #19
    Started
    My mare was Hispanic (charro trained) and she's ok (had some issues but she was not willing to take the abuse). Some can be hard to handle but some are trained and worked to where they can have kids ride them. I don't agree with their methods but they can build a horse up good -_-'.
         
        08-30-2013, 03:04 PM
      #20
    Teen Forum Moderator
    ^ I believe it is actually preferable to have a small, catty horse for barrels as opposed to the tank-like build that is looked for in, say, a ranch horse or a heeler. A larger, stockier animal will have more trouble centering itself and pressing into the turn.

    Actually if that second horse IS 16.3hh (which, as others said, is HIGHLY questionable) I might reconsider wanting him for a barrel horse. The bigger the animal it is, the harder it is for it to get down and dig in. That doesn't mean they CAN'T, just that its harder.

    Kiger, perhaps the charros in your area are different than in mine. It is very typical to see 'dancing' horses here, the stallions are very rarely gelded because being a stud gives them 'spirit' which is greatly sought after in this type of riding, and 7-10 inch curbs (TWH type bits) on three year olds, tied by the reins to their saddle with their head cranked back to learn bit submission, is the norm. The horses obey, and display fiery beauty, but to any professional horse man the abuse is obvious. Many, many of these horses (especially the stallions) are kept in dark stalls and whipped to dance or behave properly.

    As I said, not all are this way. But this is what I see in the majority of that type of training, and I want no part of it. The mare that I currently ride was charro trained and ridden in a double twisted wonder gag which was considered 'soft' by the rider, and she had all kinds of issues. She only knew how to go fast, had NO sense of balance and would leap into a run as soon as she felt herself getting off balance, didn't turn, frequently tried to run things over, and was terrified of people. Her mouth is damaged due to the methods (tying her head to the saddle and leaving her when she wasn't turning correctly) used on her, and even to this day (2 years after we brought her home) she will 'dance' when she doesn't know what you want her to do, or if she sees a whip or stick. Not prancing "I'm excited" dancing, but terrified, eye rolling, exaggerated knee dancing. It sickens me.
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