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        10-31-2012, 10:19 AM
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    Originally Posted by BarrelracingArabian    
    If I lived closer and had the space I would totally take him he is handsome! :)
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    Lol, thanks! I think I've got several people interested in him right now, and one is scheduled to come see hi on Friday and just asked if he could bring a trailer in case he decides he wants him, lol...

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    Originally Posted by AceIsHigh    
    Steep shoulder, long pasterns, neck ties in funny and is shaped odd, does anyone else think his head is short - as in he needs a little bit longer nose? He's got the so Fugly its cute look :)
    He's got that typical QH head. It's not short, it's cute, lol. I don't think he's fugly at all. Lol.

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    Originally Posted by EvilHorseOfDoom    
    Not to hijack the thread or anything but I'm a bit confused - I've always understood that the neck tying in high is preferable to a neck that ties in low as it allows for greater freedom of the shoulder and a lighter look and feel. But some of the posts in this thread seem to suggest it's not a good thing. I'm very unfamiliar with the Western and QH spheres - is this considered a fault more in them than in English riding and that's why it's mentioned in relation to this horse? Could someone please clear this up for me and explain what effect it has on the horse? Thank you!

    Btw Britt, he's a total cutie!
    I'm actually a little confused, too. I've always heard (from this forum) that a neck that ties in low is bad, so isn't it a good thing his neck ties in higher?
         
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        10-31-2012, 11:05 AM
      #12
    Yearling
    Yes it is, this guy is really borderline, for me. Remember, every aspect of conformation acts WITH the other traits the horse has... Nothing works on it's own... So it is possible to have a neck tie in a bit low, but not actually impede how the animal goes if the rest of his conformation is strong... Just as it is possible for a horse with a great neck to still struggle with balance if the rest of them is weak.
         
        10-31-2012, 12:38 PM
      #13
    Yearling
    The chest/neck tie-in.....I do not like a high tie in. I'm a WP person and many times a high tie-in comes with a straight shoulder which is not conducive for the horse to go level with a nice break at the withers. A lower tie-in, allows the horse to get level and hang that head right out there.
         
        10-31-2012, 01:46 PM
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    Okay. Well, he's just a trail horse, so... for that, I guess it really doesn't much matter?
         
        10-31-2012, 03:01 PM
      #15
    Yearling
    Not really, no... He isn't the lowest I've seen either... He's sort of right on the cusp. I wouldn't want it any lower... The lower it is the heavier on the forehand the horse tends to be, Even if the horse is mostly level in balance through the rest of the body.

    Too high a neckset has it's own issues too, it makes it harder for the horse to reach down and out... Thus creating more of a carriagey movement up front. This becomes exaggerated if the horse also has a steep slope to the shoulder.

    A horse with correct neckset should be able to lower and raise the forehand as needed, rather than being predisposed to doing either. Generally, I think of "correct" conformation as conformation which will not inhibit the horse from any activity... Ultimately they could excell at anything with the proper training and mental willingness to do it.
         
        10-31-2012, 04:45 PM
      #16
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by TheLastUnicorn    
    Not really, no... He isn't the lowest I've seen either... He's sort of right on the cusp. I wouldn't want it any lower... The lower it is the heavier on the forehand the horse tends to be, Even if the horse is mostly level in balance through the rest of the body.

    Too high a neckset has it's own issues too, it makes it harder for the horse to reach down and out... Thus creating more of a carriagey movement up front. This becomes exaggerated if the horse also has a steep slope to the shoulder.

    A horse with correct neckset should be able to lower and raise the forehand as needed, rather than being predisposed to doing either. Generally, I think of "correct" conformation as conformation which will not inhibit the horse from any activity... Ultimately they could excell at anything with the proper training and mental willingness to do it.

    But with correct training and riding....this won't happen. ANY horse will travel on the forehand IF it's not trained correctly and ridden correctly.
         
        10-31-2012, 05:56 PM
      #17
    Weanling
    I think he is cute! He looks like a sturdy guy that would be fun on the trails. His shoulder is a bit upright, and he seems to toe out to varying degrees on at least three legs, but nothing super scary. He isn't very balanced in the sense that he looks to have very little behind and more up front, but that can be improved with proper work! Since you said his job is to be a trail horse and kind of all around stuff, I think he looks great for that! Not super fancy but very cute and looks able to do his job well!

    P.s. Being a dressage rider, I prefer a higher neck set, but I can see where you are coming from with the WP angle ;)

    Best of luck selling him!
         
        10-31-2012, 09:22 PM
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    Thanks!

    He has never really been in consistent riding work, he's just an 'extra' around here that we ride if we choose to... which is part of the reason I'm selling him also, as he's young and a great horse, and I just don't have the time/funds for him. He lacks a LOT of muscling in his bum, but with trot-work, it should build up.
         
        10-31-2012, 10:10 PM
      #19
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by GotaDunQH    
    But with correct training and riding....this won't happen. ANY horse will travel on the forehand IF it's not trained correctly and ridden correctly.
    I was referring to the degree in which they do so, in their natural state... Good conformation is good conformation because it makes having a correct way of going easier for the horse. Horses with as close to ideal conformation as possible will almost always have amazing self carriage, without any training at all. It is often what makes them truly standout, as that self carriage translates to amazing movement and overall look of balance, agility and athletic ability.
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        10-31-2012, 11:49 PM
      #20
    Yearling
    Not a fan of the hairstyle, but otherwise he looks nice.
         

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