I rescued this paint a little over 2 years ago (the pic was taken about a year ago) and I've been out of showing and horses for about 10 years so I was just wondering if his confirmation is good. Right now he's a trail horse but a 4-H girl wants to show him in english halter and grooming and showmanship. She MIGHT do some walk/trot if she can get her confidence up on him. (she's used to dead broke western pleasure type horses and this one is quite the opposite. She's a little afraid of his bold movement style when she rides with her all purpose saddle but is ok with her western saddle on him) I've been using him as a western trail horse for over 2 years now. His movement is HUGE for a 15-15.2 hand paint. Reminds me of some dressage horses I rode in college that they shoved in "western land" due to a couple police horses in training in the dressage barn. I want to ride him in some Adult Novice western just for fun. I think what I really want to know is if he might stand a chance for this girl to place in the English halter and Grooming and Showmanship classes. (I already have a feeling I'm dead in the water for western riding because of how bold he is!)
Here's him trotting free in the ring... He looks like this whether there's snow on the ground or not...
Really difficult to tell anything from that pic (the first pic is useless for a confo critique, so I'm going off the minuscule second pic) other than he is VERY straight through his hind legs...and honestly almost looks sickle hocked at the same time.
His throatlatch is a bit thick, but I like where his neck ties in on his chest. He is a bit pigeon breasted. Decent shoulder angle, which is good.
Sky high withers. O.o
His front legs are nice and straight and his pasterns are a good length, but they strike me as a little on the upright side. He also looks like he has almost no heel.
His back might be a tad long, but he has good depth through his heart girth.
Not a huge fan of his back end, though. He has a rather large hunter's bump (in fact, his back almost looks roached in that pic, but it could be lack of muscle). His stifle is nice and low, but, as I thought from the smaller pic, he is indeed straight through his hocks and sickle hocked. His rear pasterns are also very upright. Is his right rear hoof as short as it looks in that pic? O.o It looks fairly clubby, as well.
For showmanship they judge her handling of the horse, not the horse itself...so she should be good there.
He is a pretty color, has nice length of heck and head looks pleasant. He appears to be a bit thick in the throat latch. Shoulder is slightly straight, as are his pasterns. Back and loin coupling are ok, but need muscling. Hind end needs more muscling and at the present degree of conditioning the croup appears steep. Hind legs look like they could be quite cow-hocked, but need a photo from the rear to tell for sure. They also appear a bit sickled and straight. Not a great candidate for halter class IMO, but she can still have a lot of fun in other classes.
Hind legs look like they could be quite cow-hocked, but need a photo from the rear to tell for sure.
I'm not seeing this, to be honest. He does toe out a little, which is common and actually what you want to see (toeing out helps the hind legs rotate correctly as the horse moves), but I'm not seeing the drastic hocks-almost-touching that signifies being truly cow-hocked.
This was mid rehab on him. He was stuck in a straight stall for 2 years with no grooming, hoof care, or exercise besides a little turn out here and there. It's been 2 years of slowly going from hooves crumbling from the inside out to finally, last trim, his hooves are almost hooves. You're right... he had no heel... he didn't even have a frog because that straight stall was never cleaned. He has no top line muscle to speak of. I'm finally cleared to start that kind of work with him now. I'm hoping there's a chance of improving some things you listed now that I'm able to work on more advanced things with him.
This is the most recent pic I have of him. Again sucks for confirmation (my boyfriend riding and only his 2nd time on a horse ever) but he's finally starting to get heels growing in. (Yes his hooves were that bad. Ended up having to do barefoot trimming because his hooves couldn't hold a shoe)
And another (again not great for confirmation. I'll take some good ones next time I see him)
I think that once he muscles up a bit, he will do quite well in 4H shows! At the ones around here, it is based more along grooming/sportsmanship/fitness of the horse. I see no reason he couldn't' be successful in that arena. :)