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    05-28-2013, 09:56 PM
  #11
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Reading your original post, you said you were 'exccited'. To me, that might not mean a forever horse, but one or a breed you might have been wanting. Then, regarding his possibility of being kept whole, it looks to the reader, as though you might be planning on breeding. Again, to me anyway, it means you might be keeping him.

You also mentioned that you had put a down payment on him. That didn't look to me as though he was being taken out of a less than stellar environment.

The video in the overgrown roundpen, was not good enough to really see how he moves. I do think he possibly has a nice long stride but not much action in the front. Quality Saddlebred babies are born with incredibly high action when trotting.

Lizzie
     
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    05-28-2013, 10:06 PM
  #12
Weanling
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Originally Posted by FeatheredFeet    
Reading your original post, you said you were 'exccited'. To me, that might not mean a forever horse, but one or a breed you might have been wanting. Then, regarding his possibility of being kept whole, it looks to the reader, as though you might be planning on breeding. Again, to me anyway, it means you might be keeping him.

You also mentioned that you had put a down payment on him. That didn't look to me as though he was being taken out of a less than stellar environment.

The video in the overgrown roundpen, was not good enough to really see how he moves. I do think he possibly has a nice long stride but not much action in the front. Quality Saddlebred babies are born with incredibly high action when trotting.

Lizzie


-- Yes I paid a deposit for him as I do think he's worth the money they were asking for him and will pay the remainder of the sum to be paid when I pick him up next weekend - owner was asking reasonable price considering the horse's condition and for lack of training there of.

-- I personally like the way he carries himself - not looking for the highest knee / hock action as I personally am not fan of saddle-seat, my saddlebred gelding that I have doesn't have the highest knee action - my dressage instructor wants to steal him :)

-- are there any other things besides the back that stand out to you? Thanks
     
    05-28-2013, 10:30 PM
  #13
Started
Well if I were younger and looking for another Saddlebred, I'd be pleased to have him. However, looking at his as he is now, I would geld and train in maybe dressage or as a pleasure mount. Saddlebreds make quite reasonable jumpers, although I never jumped mine. Mostly when I rode for pleasure, I didn't ride saddle seat, although mine were 5 gaited.

Who knows, once you get him trained, you might not wish to part with him.

As I said before, at the moment, he doesn't look stallion quality, except maybe to those who just breed for colour. I haven't been in Saddlebreds for a while, so someone still in the breed, might be able to say more about his immediate ancestors, which I don't recognise.

Lizzie
     
    05-28-2013, 10:41 PM
  #14
Weanling
Lizzie - thank you very much for your input :) Yes I am unsure about keeping him as stallion (for breeding purposes) at this time.. Time will show.. I did want to keep him intact reasonably long to help him fill out.. He was being kept with a QH gelding up till now with no problem - so I think having a saddlebred gelding to keep him company might keep them both plenty exercised in my pasture :) My ASB gelding is 5 yo and will probably keep this colt in check.
     
    05-28-2013, 11:56 PM
  #15
Weanling
I tried to dig out some info on the colt's ancestors..I found a video of this colt's grand Sire..


Also his Dam can be seen in the pictures at the bottom of this page:
Irish_Velvets_2001

- do they seem to you as having soft back? She can be seen at picture frame #7. She is moving in that picture - but her back appears pretty normal to me.. what do you think?
     
    05-29-2013, 12:06 AM
  #16
Green Broke
I think he gets his back from his dam, hers looks pretty soft. His grandsires looks pretty good though.
     
    05-29-2013, 12:17 AM
  #17
Started
Agreed!

Lizzie
     
    05-29-2013, 09:06 AM
  #18
Weanling
Yes her back definitely seems long to me :) Now - not sure if you guys noticed - she is 21 years old in the picture with him as foal :) - she is 1989 model which would make her 21 yo in the year 2010 (his foaling year) - I have seen some saddlebreds that were 12 - 15 years old and had terribly swayed back.. hers doesn't look like that though.. It's long and yes it looks week-ish but that may be also the fact she is "elderly" and that she's been used a broodmare for years (there are more foals from her on that website)

I found more info on her here: Irish_Velvets
     
    05-29-2013, 01:20 PM
  #19
Green Broke
Short weak sway backed and a low tail set, no way I would breed that horse. Nor would I pay any type of money for it. Looks like a lot of the "oooh purty color" horses I see getting bred around me.
Not meaning to pile on, but you did ask for opinions on its confirmation. That horse should be gelded today.
     
    05-29-2013, 01:21 PM
  #20
Weanling
Alright Joe - thanks for your input
     

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