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        04-07-2013, 10:19 PM
    Originally Posted by PurpleMonkeyWrench    
    wacha talkin about she looks like an angel
    LOL of course she is. It's us pesky humans who keep upsetting her delicate sensibilities

    Witch did not give permission for her picture to be taken by such amateurs.
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        04-07-2013, 11:21 PM
    Originally Posted by demonwolfmoon    
    LOL of course she is. It's us pesky humans who keep upsetting her delicate sensibilities

    Witch did not give permission for her picture to be taken by such amateurs.
    bahaha how cute! I still see wings tho
        04-08-2013, 12:03 AM
    I really like her! She's got plenty of bone. Agree that her front legs will look better/less wonky after a good trim. She's a bit over at the knee, but not horrible. I love her silly expressions.
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        04-08-2013, 12:24 AM
    Green Broke
    She's nice! She will look a whole lot better with some weight and her feet done. She definitely looks like a gaited breed. And she seems like a sweetheart! I have had worse death glares from my yearling colt!

    Isn't he just terrifying?
        04-08-2013, 05:35 AM
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    Originally Posted by Kayella    
    She's nice! She will look a whole lot better with some weight and her feet done. She definitely looks like a gaited breed. And she seems like a sweetheart! I have had worse death glares from my yearling colt!

    Isn't he just terrifying?
    Ooooohhhhhhh....what did you do to him...O_O
    Is it the lime green?....
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        04-08-2013, 07:16 AM
    Green Broke
    We have a lot of gaited and saddlebreds around here and she does look like your typical spotted saddle horse to me.

    Front legs will look a lot better with a good trim. Not perfect, but nothing there that should break down with what you are looking at doing with her. Nice amount of bone to her. I like her overall look for a saddle horse and you should have fun with her.
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        04-08-2013, 08:46 AM
    Conformational Judging:
    . Well sized ears
    . Good sized big eyes
    . Decent sized nostrils
    . Head is very straight but doesn't look roman nosed
    . Clean flat forehead
    . Good Head to neck connection
    . Head is a bit to big for the body but aids in character

    . Near perfect size
    . Lacks muscle so it lacks an arch to it
    . Developed more muscle on the underside of the neck
    . Neck is not to thick
    . Decent Neck to Shoulder atachment

    . Near perfect size not to long or not extremely short
    . Lacks topline
    . Spine doesn't appear to pop out so that's a good thing !

    . Lacks muscle every where
    . Can't see a shine to the horses coat
    . Could do with some more weight so when horse gets in work it can develop muscle (im used to seeing more to the chubbier side of horses though)
    . Body isn't that proportional and it might be all based on the lack of muscle
    . Shoulder, breast and chest is not well muscled
    . Wither is slightly higher than the croup that's good because she shouldn't naturally go on the forehand
    . Wither is a bit to prominent but not impossible so you will be able to ride horse bareback

    . Lacks muscle
    . There appears to be a dip on her croup the croup starts of high up
    . Croup is more on the steeper side
    . Croup lacks muscle
    . Short from point of hip to stifle

    . Shoulder Angle is a good one not to steep and not to upright although you can judge the shoulder angle more acurately by feel im relying on the shadow of the shoulder (the scapula bone that sticks out).
    . Shoulder Angle is around 45-50 degrees (half of 90 degrees)
    . Shoulder angle doesn't match the front leg pasterns like it should because of the terrible farrier work
    . Shoulder angle matches the back pasterns well
    . Its hard to figure out the angle of the front pasterns because the terrible angle of the hoof

    . Front cannons are very short especially compared to the back leg cannons
    . Back cannons are obviously longer than the front cannons and they look a good size
    . (Side View) The Knees on the front legs bend inwards its called calf knees im pretty sure or it can be also called camped under corrective farrier stuff might change that
    . Front View of the front legs:
    . The knees bend inwards
    . A very very very apparent case of Toe out
    . A case of Base Wide so the base is wider than compared to where the shoulders come out
    . The whole front legs are turned out at the Knee (Rotation) since the knees bend inwards
    . Knock knees

    Front Legs movement:
    . Since the feet are toe out and the legs are base wide and we have a case of Knock knees im pretty sure its going to be a strange movement to sit to and Toa out causes a movement called "Winging out" so the legs don't move forwards straight.

    Back Legs:
    . There is a slight toe out in the back legs its really hard to tell because of the photos, hopefully the degree that the pastern is turned out matches the degree that the hock is turned out
        04-08-2013, 08:50 AM
    Forgot to say horse has well sprung ribs.
        04-08-2013, 08:57 AM
    You should have her checked by a Vet before doing any work on her off course after a good farrier visit because, her front feet have not been looked after very well and it creates more strain on the legs plus with her conformation of the legs you don't know if she's completely sound. She will need more maintenance of her legs and because of her age she might have problems allready. Get her checked who knows how many years of riding she might have left if she has had bad feet for years and years.
        04-08-2013, 01:25 PM
    Thank you, Olivia! That was right up there above and beyond what I was asking for, which is GREAT! =)

    I will look over everything more closely and research.

    As for the vet, he actually came out and saw her the day before yesterday. Didn't say anything about conformation issues. I will talk to the farrier in a couple hours when he comes out, and get his input, then ask the vet some more pointed questions when he comes out in May/June for health certificates.

    As for coat/joints etc, I have all my horses on MSM supplements, Mare Plus (even the tired of putting the detailed info on the lid and just told the BO to chuck them all a scoop daily!), and I'm waiting for the Rice Bran oil that I ordered to show up. Do you think that it would be worth it to buy another container of Animed Muscle up, or do you think between the others, the rice bran oil and quality grain, she will shape back up (coat wise, and opportunity for muscles)?

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