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    03-17-2012, 11:29 PM
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Foal
Smile Tell me a lil more about my boy ...

Here are some pics of my new boy - I understand that they are not the best but any advice surrounding his conformation would be wonderful ...newby here.










Thank you in advance...
     
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    03-17-2012, 11:48 PM
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Trained
He toes out in the back more than I would like, but he doesn't appear to be cow hocked, so it looks like the rotation of his hooves is not from the hock, but rather from the fetlock. I'm not liking the way his hocks are formed for some reason. They look...off, to me. Like they're almost built backwards...but they're not. His hocks are nice and low, but he's REALLY light on bone through his cannons. His pasterns appear long and have way too much of a slope to them.

His back is a decent length, but he appears to have a wee bit of a hunter's bump going on.

His shoulder is rather upright (or at least it looks like it). He is over at the knee, but if he's a TB, as I expect, then that's not unusual. He also looks tied in at the elbow and behind the knee.

His neck definitely needs a lot of muscle on it. His throatlatch looks nice and clean, though. His neck ties in decently, but he looks to be a bit pigeon-breasted.

In that face-on pic, his feet looks kinda scary. When was the last time he had a good trim? It could also be just the way he's standing, but he appears to toe out on his right front, but not on his left.
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    03-18-2012, 01:25 AM
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Foal
Thank you , I have noticed some of the things that you have bought up, he has just had his shoes taken off on his last trim, which was around 4wks ago now. I was concerned particularly about his cannon bones being so light also , but he is a OTT tb - so I'm not sure as to if that is typical or not of them. He was taken off track as he was too slow. The farrier that I had gotten out to remove shoes and trim had done the thing to his right front foot which concerned me but ... Its done now ... On to fixing it I guess. Can you go in to a little more depth regarding how to fix, heal etc some of the issues you have seen. ? I am yet to get a vet out here to him :(
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    03-18-2012, 01:38 AM
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Trained
The only issue that I know is fixable is his neck, which can be corrected through riding him in a correct frame and getting him to use his hind end more. A neck like his is generally indicative of a horse that travels heavily on his forehand, which I've noticed is pretty common in racehorses.

Being light on bone is not a "typical" TB trait, that I've seen, off-the-track or not.

These guys are all OTTBs and all have good bone on them:

(I know she's moving, but you can still see that she has decent bone):



As for the other issues, they're just things to be aware of, really. Some of them will effect his performance, others won't.
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    03-18-2012, 01:52 AM
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Foal
Thank you , I'm not looking to have him being a super jumper or anything - he's my first horse and him being sound and healthy is my first priority in preference to jumping a gazillion fences or being superb at dressage , we are learning together to enjoy life :) curious .... Would chiro visit help rule out some of those issues as pain/ hot spots ?
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    03-18-2012, 02:07 AM
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Trained
I would say having a chiro (or even just the vet) check him out wouldn't be a bad idea. He is standing camped out in back, so he may have some pain issues.

I'm not sure how truthful OTTB brokers are in Australia, but here in the US, you have to be VERY careful about what they tell you about why the horse was pulled from the track. Take that pretty grey gelding in the first pic I put up. My friend that purchased him was told he was pulled from the track because he just didn't want to run anymore. After him coming up lame every time she tried to ride him, she finally had the vet check him out. Turns out he had fractured his hip sometime during his time on the track and they kept running him anyway without it properly healing. He is now permanently lame and is little better than a pasture pony.
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    03-18-2012, 08:56 PM
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Foal
The good news about his feet is they look like they have decent heel, which is great. The rest of the trim job is bad, but a good farrier can bring those back. I love his huge hip and good muscle. His slight bone is a potential concern, I would just make sure you always keep him on the thinner side to lessen the work his legs have to do to support his body. I think he's pretty well balanced but I agree something looks strange about his hocks. The vet will tell you more. I'd love to see more pics that are square so we can get a better idea of what's going on. Very handsome boy!!
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    03-18-2012, 09:26 PM
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Started
Overall balanced.His topline is weak & lacking muscle,has a bit of a hunters bump.Hip is nice size with good carry down.Neck is clean & ties in nicely it could use some extra muscling.His hind pasterns look weak/dropping probably accounting for how he is toeing out. I know he is TB but is a bit light for my taste ,would like to see more bone on him.
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    03-19-2012, 05:33 PM
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Foal
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the good news about his feet is they look like they have decent heel, which is great. The rest of the trim job is bad, but a good farrier can bring those back. I love his huge hip and good muscle. His slight bone is a potential concern, I would just make sure you always keep him on the thinner side to lessen the work his legs have to do to support his body. I think he's pretty well balanced but I agree something looks strange about his hocks. The vet will tell you more. I'd love to see more pics that are square so we can get a better idea of what's going on. Very handsome boy!!

Thank you chopsticks , Its nice to see that Im not the only one who thought this boy was handsome. I have had him in the paddock on light feeding - twice a day just one biscuit of lucerne - but he seems to be putting on some weight , I was hoping that his butt end would fill out when I was eventually able to work him properly(not just ground work), I will be getting the vet n chiro out - funds are very limited at the moment with only my partner working so as long as he is not in pain (which I am thankful that he doesnt seem to be) I am happy for him to wait whilst we get the funds together. Ill try and get pics of him square for you , but he isnt exactly the most skilled horse nor me as a horsewomen. Any sugestions on getting him to stand neat and tidy?
     
    03-19-2012, 05:35 PM
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Foal
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overall balanced.His topline is weak & lacking muscle,has a bit of a hunters bump.Hip is nice size with good carry down.Neck is clean & ties in nicely it could use some extra muscling.His hind pasterns look weak/dropping probably accounting for how he is toeing out. I know he is TB but is a bit light for my taste ,would like to see more bone on him.
thank you painted pastures - curious what ground excercises would he benefit from that could improve his topline and neck that I could do on the ground? Suggestions greatly appriecated.
     

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