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post #1 of 13 Old 02-20-2012, 09:49 PM Thread Starter
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are these accurate angles?

just wondering if i have drawn them correctly? i am new to this conformation stuff.. just trying to learn what is good and what is bad. this is bella. i figured if practice on her. it is the best shot i have of her in a side position. look forward to your help.
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post #2 of 13 Old 02-21-2012, 09:15 AM
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You have missed the point of shoulder (too high), line of scapula (too far forward), the point of buttock (too high), center of stifle (too high I think.. harder to tell from the photo) and top of hip is too far forward.
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thank you for correcting it for me. i appreciate it.
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Just so you know, in this image it looks like Bella is back at the knee. I may have the location of the elbow a bit high.. I think the angle at the point of shoulder is a little more open than what I have drawn.

FWIW I like Bella's coupling very much.. smooth and strong. I wish her hocks and knees were a bit lower and she was posed better. I think she is a better horse than this photo says she is. I love a bay tobiano.. but that is after the conformation critique.

I don't care what color the horse is if the conformation is good. I also do not care what the horse's head shape is (there are those who hate certain head types) as long as the head attaches to the neck correctly.

You don't ride the head and you don't work the color... All that aside I think this horse, who looks to be quite young, is a pretty good one.

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thank you :) she turns 8 years old on july 13th. i have been away from her for about 4 years now. which explains lack of muscling and so forth- as she was only a pasture puff.. that is also the reason for poor photos. but i finally go home on march 3rd!! so i will make sure to take better conformation shots when i get there :) i appreciate your critique. i do not know what back at the knees means though. could you please explain this to me? any problems that could arise because of this?
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the first picture is of her at right about 2.5-3 years old. quite a bit ago, but it shows her legs more. the others are somewhat recent. within the last few months. not very good conf shots, but maybe you get a better idea of her legs?
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i will make sure to take better ones when i get home.
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These are a bit better. I like the front, shoulder and copuling. She is a bit back at the knee. Her hind end is whispy and in need of muscle. Her hocks are a bit high and she has a capped hock.. not an unsoundness (unless from recent trauma).. more a blemish.

Lower hocks would bring her leg a bit more forward and give her more power. A longer distance from top of rump to point of buttock would help too.. and more muscle. Trotting hills and learning to shift her balance to the rear and use her abdominal muscles would really make this horse look much better.

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ok, thank you for letting me know. she has been out of work for 4 years, so i will have my work cut out for me.. when i get home, i will start doing some exercises to help build her muscles. since she is back at the knees, would she benefit from these for protection:

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I would really discourage boots that add too much support, as your horse may then rely on them, your horse is not back at the knee enough to need anything but regular work for strengthening. I would also encourage you to have her bring her head down and lift her back so she can develop more of a topline and maybe work on some flexion in the next, her neck topline is under developed. You can do that on those hills ;)

I'm actuall worried about her hoof and ankle angles. Talk with your farrier and vet (preferably together). She might need an adjustment in the way she's being done so that she doesn't have so much slope to her pasterns.

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