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    04-22-2013, 10:41 AM
  #21
Green Broke
Quite honestly if I owned that stallion I would not accept your mare for breeding.

Nakota horses are interesting.. but the get from this cross would likely be less than stellar. Nothing against Nakota horses if that is what you want.

A really good Thoroughbred or Warmblood to cross on could be nice and have more of a chance of producing something similar to the stallion. You might lease one for breeding if you can find one. Enjoy your Nakota horse but don't breed her to this stallion!
     
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    04-22-2013, 10:52 AM
  #22
Green Broke
I don't know of any upper level stallion owners that would breed to any sort of stock breed. The owners of high quality stallions are selective of the mares they breed to.

When I was looking for a stallion for my mare many stallion owners asked me for her show records, her blood lines and the results of previous foals she has. I was also asked what the reason for the beeding was, the plans for the foal and if I would be considering breeding the foal in the future if the foal proved to be quality.

Its all well and good to go "I would love to breed my mare to this stallion! He is so amazing!" but at the end of the day, owners of higher quality stallions are selective. They don't want to beed their stallion to any old mare that crosses their path. They want to make sure there will be the best possible outcome of the foal.

If you are set on breeding your mare, aim for something that would actually cross well with your horse. Such as a TB or QH.
     
    04-22-2013, 02:32 PM
  #23
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Or potentially even look into a high quality Nokota stallion. That way you would have a purebred (or as purebred as this type gets anyways xD) but you could easily improve the get by picking a stud that pairs well with your mare. I realize it might be a bit of work since they aren't many standing studs, but maybe you could work with a breeder to get your mare in foal if, indeed, she is a good example of her breed. The Nokota Horse Conservancy - Breeders List# It sounds to me as if Nokotas have a presence of their own in the show world, so why take a chance of a very....interesting, foal, when you could get a purebred nokota with the ability to do all that you are wanting it to do?

After doing a little research I have found that a breed characteristic is that they tend to be quite angular, which is opposite of what a warmblood is. Warmbloods are built for finnesse and power, but are streamline and rounded typically. I keep trying to imagine a Nokota x WB cross but I really just can't fathom what one would look like.

Is your mare a National Park Traditional or a National Park Ranch? I'm assuming Ranch, since you mentioned a Quarter Horse type build?
     
    04-24-2013, 04:57 PM
  #24
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Endiku    
Or potentially even look into a high quality Nokota stallion. That way you would have a purebred (or as purebred as this type gets anyways xD) but you could easily improve the get by picking a stud that pairs well with your mare. I realize it might be a bit of work since they aren't many standing studs, but maybe you could work with a breeder to get your mare in foal if, indeed, she is a good example of her breed. The Nokota Horse Conservancy - Breeders List# It sounds to me as if Nokotas have a presence of their own in the show world, so why take a chance of a very....interesting, foal, when you could get a purebred nokota with the ability to do all that you are wanting it to do?

After doing a little research I have found that a breed characteristic is that they tend to be quite angular, which is opposite of what a warmblood is. Warmbloods are built for finnesse and power, but are streamline and rounded typically. I keep trying to imagine a Nokota x WB cross but I really just can't fathom what one would look like.

Is your mare a National Park Traditional or a National Park Ranch? I'm assuming Ranch, since you mentioned a Quarter Horse type build?
Hmm. I do like what you said. And I would, but so far have only found one nice looking Nokota stallion (ill post a link), but I don't think id get quite what I want. I know mine would excel in pretty well anything, except probably jumping. And still like I had said, breeding her to this warmblood stallion is only a thought. I posted on here to get opinions first xP
And my mare is NPT, she's about 80% foundation. But she's a lot nicer looking than most. If you look at this page, Dreamcatcher and Dakota Pistol are at least half (one may be full) siblings to her. And Dreamcatcher looks a LOT like my mare in conformation
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    04-24-2013, 05:06 PM
  #25
Green Broke
This is the stallion More Information About. . .
     
    04-25-2013, 10:33 AM
  #26
Green Broke
The stud fee for this Nakota Stud is $4k? This means the foals sell for $8k??????

Good golly Miss Molly if that is the case, breed to a Nakota Stud.

Quite honestly though I do not see a need to breed to that stallion. Of course I am not into the whole "rare breeds" thing.. and if I was I would be more interested in supporting the Cleveland Bay and the Suffolk Punch.
     
    04-25-2013, 03:52 PM
  #27
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Elana    
The stud fee for this Nakota Stud is $4k? This means the foals sell for $8k??????

Good golly Miss Molly if that is the case, breed to a Nakota Stud.

Quite honestly though I do not see a need to breed to that stallion. Of course I am not into the whole "rare breeds" thing.. and if I was I would be more interested in supporting the Cleveland Bay and the Suffolk Punch.
Haha god no his price isn't 4k. They're currently selling him right now, and he's $4,000. Nd I like the mustangs because they can pretty much do everything, and you can get mustangs pretty well with any sort of conformation, plus get them gaited if you want a gaited horse
     
    04-27-2013, 03:48 AM
  #28
Green Broke
I can't find a single Nokota stallion up for stud anywhere...
     

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