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post #1 of 6 Old 09-14-2013, 04:02 PM Thread Starter
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upper level dressage prospect?

She is only 8 but wasn't started correctly. I rode her and she was allot of fun although very strong at canter. I ride at first level in dressage and did get her to stretch down. She's a very fancy mover and looked allot better with me on her and a saddle on. She has gone beginner novice eventing recently and won at a hunter pace but now she's in pretty sorry shape for some reason. I checked her teeth and she has no galvynes groove and still has all her cups on the bottom front teeth (not to be confused with caps). The hoof pic is her hind foot, her front feet are more round. Not sure why the backs are triangular. She is a Percheron x Anglo Arab.
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She looks to have weak hindquarters. She has a short and fairly flat croup from the Arab side. Hind leg looks fairly straight and she is weak through her gaskin (making the extensor muscles look enlarged). She is long and weak through the coupling. I think she will have a hard time bringing her hindquarters under her for upper level movements. Videos would be helpful to assess her movement. I think she could do first level, but I don't see an upper level horse.
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Having upper level conformation is a rarity, when you look at the numbers of horses that are alive. It's very specific, and generally found in dressage lines as they are bred for specifically. Not that you can't find the conformation elsewhere, it's just easier to find in dressage lines (and even then, not all horses bred for dressage will be fit for upper level.)
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As team fire said, very few horses have the conformation for upper level Dressage, and this one is no exception. She'll be fine to do some lower levels on, but don't expect anything amazing.
I know that people cry breed snobbery over this, but there are specific European warmblood lines that have been developed over centuries towards Grand Prix potential, which must be an appropriate mix of conformation, paces, temperament and soundness. Of the thousands of extremely well bred warmblood foals that hit the ground each year, maybe a handful will be suited to upper level work.
The chance of picking one of these horses put of a perch x Arab is extraordinarily slim.

However, as you are only riding at first level presently, I don't think you need to be looking so much at an upper level prospect. Find something with 3 good paces, that naturally swings it's back and sits on its haunches, and has a willing temperament. If it can get you to medium/adv then it is a bloody good horse.
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Very cute, reminds me of my little 15h TB/Dutch sport horse who is just starting 1st level. He was backyard bred and had a crappy start made him a bit more defensive when it comes to introducing new work that is harder but is simply a joy to ride when it's going right.

Best advice I have if you have a good gut feeling, maybe you can lease to buy, get to know her take her to your trainer and really get a feel?
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First of all, define "upper level"? You say you are riding 1st level now. Are you wanting Grand Prix? I have seen lots of horses at the GP level that may have a conformation flaw here or there. The biggest factor was how they moved and how much heart they had.

Just looking at the horses conformation, I would say there might be some issues that may impact their movement, which might need to be factored in. If your desire is to only go third level, it makes a huge difference.

Posting video showing the horse's movement would give us a better idea.
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