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Upright pastern,hindleg confirmation starting to feel the roughness

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    04-11-2012, 12:53 PM
  #1
Foal
Upright pastern,hindleg confirmation starting to feel the roughness

Hope you all don't mind me re-visiting an old post(from yrs ago) asking opinions about this mares pastern/back legs. I never worried to much but am now starting to see/feel some of roughness & collection issues we discussed now that she's grown up some.
This little mare is one of the best-minded, most trainable, friendly and bighearted horse...but I am starting now to really feel her upright pasterns through her trot, she collects up the best she can but its a pit pounding. I'm not trying to dwell on her short comings but would love to hear your thoughts. Haven't seen soreness yet...she's 'used' and ridden about 3/4 times a week.
If you can't tell much from these recent pics maybe you can go back to older post which has better shots of her legs when younger

HOpe you can still see her old pics from the below posting
3 yr old hind leg confirmation
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    04-11-2012, 01:20 PM
  #2
Green Broke
Her stifle is quite low, which would result in a shorter stride.
Her back legs appear slightly sickle-hocked with long cannons and although her pasterns are short, they don't look to be too terrible.
     
    04-11-2012, 01:24 PM
  #3
Weanling
Hmm I don't really see an upright pastern......maybe a bit on the short side but nothing alarming........doesn't the short stride come more from the shoulder angle?

Super Nova
     
    04-11-2012, 01:39 PM
  #4
Foal
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Originally Posted by Super Nova    
Hmm I don't really see an upright pastern......maybe a bit on the short side but nothing alarming........doesn't the short stride come more from the shoulder angle?

Super Nova
I don't know why I"m asking so should I be looking at her shoulder more...
     
    04-11-2012, 01:42 PM
  #5
Foal
lilruffian Did you happen to see the older post on this were a couple of folks said the upright pastern thing? Anyway a guy at my barn says you can clearly see she' pretty straight in her pasterns and he's on I really respect and wouldn't say it to be crude he's a good friend who is just now telling me this when I started having problems with her rough trot. But I tell ya I can't see it in person but she's my first young horse and I'm not very educated on good confirmation...
     
    04-11-2012, 02:27 PM
  #6
Weanling
Went back and looked at the pics again.....in some the pasterns look up right and in others they do not.....although in all pics they look a little short....in order to know for sure you need to stand her up on level ground preferably concrete......in some pictures her toes are digging into the ground with her heels raised and that does make her pasterns look up right but whether they actually are is another thing.

The ideal angle of the pastern and the shoulder should both be between 45 and 50......I'm no expert but it appears from the picture that her angles are close.....also did some reading.....short pasterns can also cause her trot to be choppy......but maybe she is just not using herself properly?

Super Nova
     
    04-11-2012, 02:37 PM
  #7
Super Moderator
Honestly, I do not see upright pasterns. They look pretty average to me.
Her hind leg is a bit posty, true.
If the horse has started to feel rough and short striding in the trot, I would suspect a saddle fit that restricts shoulder movement.
     
    04-11-2012, 02:51 PM
  #8
Foal
I know I have trouble seeing it too....but a very wise cowboy whose been around a long time says they are upright not enough angle so she will always be a little rougher, I"m trying to understand more why I'm asking.


Here's her 2 yr old picture

Also Please see older post link below maybe that will shed some light....
3 yr old hind leg confirmation
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    04-11-2012, 03:29 PM
  #9
mls
Trained
What do you do for conditioning/dry work with this mare?

She could be developing her rough gait due to being 'held' instead of allowed to move.
     
    04-12-2012, 03:05 PM
  #10
Foal
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Originally Posted by mls    
What do you do for conditioning/dry work with this mare?

She could be developing her rough gait due to being 'held' instead of allowed to move.
Nothing real strenous we do a lot of work on natrual terrain, circling around huge old cedar trees, first at the walk, trot then lope, then we walk the field to relax after each, then work on maybe backing around trees, get her loose again then maybe up and down hills/terrain...then more walking and jogging then slowing back to lope. I never hold this mare in....she's to young we've but weve been steadily working at it in longer and longer sessions for the last year so she can handle it. I make her hold her collection maybe 1 min, 45 seconds or 2min just depends if she's willing to give correclty.
After all this warm up we do whatever the day brings, whether it be pushing the 3 cattle around a pen, going for a long trail ride, or loping through a pasture....
     

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