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    11-13-2011, 08:09 PM
  #21
Trained
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Originally Posted by faye    
Kait, please continue to be very careful for a few more days, there are some sedatives out there that can last at low levels for days (namely anti psychotics that are not legaly approved for horses). I'm not saying yours is doped but it is not unheard of. Just be careful.

Hopefuly you have found a gem though.

What diseases do you have over there that require a 30 day quarenteen? Strangles only requires a 14 day quarenteen with the vast majority of cases showing signs within 5 days of contraction the disease.
Faye, over here we routinely quarantine for 30 days because strangles is pretty pandemic and once 1 horse gets it, it sweeps through the barn and just about every horse on the property gets it. That and exposure to Rhino for pregnant mares is not good either, so new horses on my farm go into the quarantine barn and are not allowed even on the same side of the property as th permanent residents for 30 days. Just a safety precaution.

On the quarantine side of the property we sign in and out, step into bleach baths, going in and out, sanitize our hands and change clothes before moving over to the non-quarantine side. I keep our quarantine barn up to USDA standards for importing and exporting horses. It has saved my bacon more than once. This summer being the most recent when, due to drought, we had an explosion in this state of dryland distemper or Pigeon Fever. I had a horse come down with it, quarantined her and no one else on the property got sick.
     
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    11-13-2011, 08:26 PM
  #22
Green Broke
So do you also quarenteen anyhorse that goes to a competition? If not then you are wasting your time when it comes to strangles (I won't go into the other diseases as I have never heard of then so I don't think we have then in the UK). Strangles is normaly picked up at shows from infected horses who's owners don't know the horses have it or from a silent carrier who is stressed and shedding.

Heck it is not unknown for people from yards that are infected to go to shows and not tell anyone. Responsible people would quarenteen the yard during an outbreak unfortunatly not everyone is responsible. I've known of one horse that came from a police yard (deffinatly no strangles there), picked up strangles in the transporters lorry, thankfully it came onto a good yard and the entire yard was quarenteened. However the transporters traced the other horse on the lorry and it had not shown any signs at all. It was found to be a carrier who was stressed by being in a lorry and hence it was shedding.

The only way to be 100% sure is a gutteral pouch flush and then cultivate it!
     
    11-13-2011, 08:31 PM
  #23
Trained
Faye, I don't actually send any of my horses out from this property. Any of the show horses are kept at another ranch down in TX and everyone is also immunized for Strangles that routinely leaves that property. The horses here are here for breeding and foaling only. So, to answer your next question, if a mare comes here to be bred she has to be here 30 days before I'll let her near my stallion. If they just want her bred, that's fine, I can do that on the quarantine side by AI. I just collect the stallion and then carry the collection to the mare, breed her, check her at 14-16 days and if she's in foal, she can go home without ever leaving the quarantine side.
     
    11-13-2011, 08:38 PM
  #24
Green Broke
Fair enough and sounds sensible. Although I personaly would be swabbing any horse onto your yard (if it were theoreticly my yard, if that makes any sense)

Although I would point out that the vaccine was withdrawn from the UK market and lost it's liscence over here after it was prooven to be completly ineffective at best. There is notably one yard where out of 14 horses to contract strangles 9 had been vaccinated including the horse that brought it into the yard. It was all over the uk equestrian press and the drug company paid out some hefty compensation. The vaccine has never come back to the uk market.
     
    11-13-2011, 08:47 PM
  #25
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Originally Posted by faye    
Fair enough and sounds sensible. Although I personaly would be swabbing any horse onto your yard (if it were theoreticly my yard, if that makes any sense)

Although I would point out that the vaccine was withdrawn from the UK market and lost it's liscence over here after it was prooven to be completly ineffective at best. There is notably one yard where out of 14 horses to contract strangles 9 had been vaccinated including the horse that brought it into the yard. It was all over the uk equestrian press and the drug company paid out some hefty compensation. The vaccine has never come back to the uk market.

Now THAT is interesting! I do the intranasal one when giving to my horses. I don't know that it's very effective at prevention but it does seem that those who have been 'inoculated' recover faster and have less severity in their case. I don't ever give the injectable one, just too many bad injection site reactions from that one. And boy, they are sooooo miserable when they have a reaction to that shot!
     
    11-14-2011, 11:42 AM
  #26
Banned
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Originally Posted by tinyliny    
Lots of bone in the hocks, especially.
Lots of bone in the hock? Hu?
     
    11-14-2011, 09:37 PM
  #27
Banned
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Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
Lots of bone in the hock? Hu?

Bony hocks.
     
    11-14-2011, 09:51 PM
  #28
Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
Lots of bone in the hock? Hu?

Yeah, makes for better eatin'.

I mean that the hock looks solid.
     
    11-14-2011, 11:10 PM
  #29
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Originally Posted by tinyliny    
yeah, makes for better eatin'.

.

I like pork chops better.

So does my cat.
     
    11-15-2011, 08:32 AM
  #30
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Hahaha :) bony hocks good for eating you guys are funny.
Is that bad for them??? Or will it cause problems later on??
     

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