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  • Limitations of horse with long weak loin

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    05-30-2014, 10:57 PM
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Weanling
What do you think of this mare?

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Confo and way of going in the video
     
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    05-30-2014, 11:59 PM
  #2
Yearling
That rider is doing her NO favors at all. And she is way overpriced, I wouldn't pay more than 15k for this horse, maybe 20. I don't like her hind end, I can't explain why, but it just seems off and slight for her build. She is a cute mover though, she would look even better with a better rider. She has a long back with a long weak loin connection. She appears to be sickle hocked as well.
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    05-31-2014, 05:51 AM
  #3
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I don't see sickle hocks, the hind leg hadn't good bone and angle, IMO, but the gaskin is light. Back is long and a bit stiff but it did not seen to impede her. I think she seemed a handy jumper.
     
    05-31-2014, 10:33 AM
  #4
Yearling
I think she is cute, but not a fan of her lack of working off the hind end on her flat work. She appear string out and on the forehand to me throughout most of the video (I didn't watch it all). I think she has some ability, and might be better with another rider, but what I saw didn't impress me all that much. At that price point I would think you could find much nicer.
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    05-31-2014, 03:28 PM
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I agree that she looked on her forehand. Not badly put together, better front end than back.

She was way yo long and strung out for her age and price.
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    05-31-2014, 03:48 PM
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Foal
In my opinion, like others have said, her back looks really long to me. She has gorgeous coloring, but she's definitely not worth above 15k in my opinion considering she's so young and she hasn't even been shown yet. Once she gets blue ribbons in big hunter/jumper shows, then I'd be more open to spend more.
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    06-01-2014, 01:39 PM
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Started
I can't tell if its the rider but for the first minute or so of the video (particularly going to the left) the horse seems to have a slight head nod. I am not sure how much is the rider's balance and how much is genuine lameness. It might just be me or the the rider but if this was a horse I was considering I would want a video without a rider and a very thorough PPE. In general, the horse has long back and light bone in my opinion,
     
    06-02-2014, 11:49 AM
  #8
Green Broke
I will NEVER understand why anyone would put a horse for sale up with such a poorly set up conformation shot... and then have the audacity to ask 5 figures!!! Really? Get a photographer and get some GOOD photos.. without a tree growing out of the horse's back and fences growing out of each end!!

This horse has a very nice front end, with the exception of being slightly back at the knee. She has good bone and so she may hold up.. but she won't be a Grand Prix horse because she is not quite as tight up front as you would like.

The real weakness comes from behind. She is short backed but long coupled. Her entire hind leg is set too far back and comes out of a hind quarter with a very abruptly steep (albeit round)croup and too high a tail set. The tail set shows where the back bone is!

She has insufficient angle at the stifle and a weak gaskin. Her hock is too high off the ground and the entire hind leg structure is a bit weak. This along with her downhill build will limit her. Her feet are large and I suspect she has solid hoof walls.

In the video she does flying changes in spite of being off balance and poorly ridden. She leans and wobbles around the course.. and slides sideways on the turns popping a shoulder out here and there. She needs more flat work and more balance.. but she will never be an easy ride because she his her limits physically.

I watch this horse and think that in spite of her limitations physically and her being poorly ridden she does jump and change leads. I suspect she has a good mind.
     

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