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        01-13-2013, 05:12 PM
      #11
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GotaDunQH    
    There is nothing wrong with hock injections if a horse needs them. What IS wrong is asking a horse to perform that needs help with the hocks. My horse gets hock injections before show season, BECAUSE he no longer produces synovial fluid...which is NOT his fault, it's what happens with Mother Nature. So, should I not replace that fluid so he can still be an active horse? Or should I just turn him out to pasture, not work him, and STILL have him with uncomfortable hocks....whether I ride him or not.
    This is exactly what I was getting at. I never said hock injections are a BAD thing, but to have a horse that needs them because they are in constant pain is wrong in my opinion, and jumping would be completely off limits.

    I have a 5 year old with severe arthritis. I'm doing everything in my power to get her to riding sound. She was supposed to be a top competitor in the barrel arena, and she may never make it there. Hock injections very well could be in our near future but I feel pumping a horse full of pain meds is wrong if the horse is still going to be in pain during riding and for days after a heavy workout.

    Especially with him being such a young horse...
         
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        01-13-2013, 05:29 PM
      #12
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CLaPorte432    
    This is exactly what I was getting at. I never said hock injections are a BAD thing, but to have a horse that needs them because they are in constant pain is wrong in my opinion, and jumping would be completely off limits.

    I have a 5 year old with severe arthritis. I'm doing everything in my power to get her to riding sound. She was supposed to be a top competitor in the barrel arena, and she may never make it there. Hock injections very well could be in our near future but I feel pumping a horse full of pain meds is wrong if the horse is still going to be in pain during riding and for days after a heavy workout.

    Especially with him being such a young horse...
    But what other option is there? I remember the vet said if he didn't get the injections, his lower joints in his hock would fuse or something like that. So in a way, he does need them. Wouldn't he still be in some amount of pain even if he just stood around the pasture all day? How else would you minimize the symptoms/pain without medication/treatments?

    I don't mean to sound defensive or anything :) I'm just pretty sure it's something he's going to have to have, I don't know what other options there are.. he has such a long life yet, I'd hate to see him be put on pasture rest :/

    And I don't do anything too strenuous riding-wise anyway. I mainly pleasure ride and do a 4H show in the summer.. for now at least.
         
        01-19-2013, 12:35 PM
      #13
    Foal
    Any other comments about his conformation?
         
        01-20-2013, 04:19 AM
      #14
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kelseyxroxy    
    But what other option is there? I remember the vet said if he didn't get the injections, his lower joints in his hock would fuse or something like that.
    That's actually something you WANT if he's arthritic in the lower hock. It's not a joint that moves much if at all, and once it's fused it won't cause him any pain or difficulty.

    UPPER hock is a big problem. That's a joint that cannot fuse, it moves too much. Causing a lot of pain if it's arthritic.

    HOWEVER, at his young age I do wonder if there is some underlying problem causing these arthritic changes. I wouldn't ever jump a horse that I knew had hock issues. Dressage is out of the question, too, because they need to be able to bend through the hock to take their weight on their hind end. What CAN you do...? Trails. Lightly. If that.

    If he was my horse I would let his hocks fuse, then see how he went from there.
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        01-28-2013, 10:21 AM
      #15
    Foal
    I have his x-rays somewhere.. but I THINK it's the top joints. I don't want to say for sure though, I can't remember exactly what the vet said.

    Anyways, I'm still curious about his confo for English.. or would he make a better western horse - wp or reining, for example? Of course after I talk and work with the vet about more about his hocks.
         
        01-29-2013, 01:45 AM
      #16
    Trained
    I'm confused.

    This is what you said:

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kelseyxroxy    
    his lower joints in his hock would fuse or something like that.
    Now you're saying upper joints. Why? Lower hock is a GOOD thing, you just give it time to fuse and your horse will/may return to a full functional life. Upper hock is really bad and joint injections are only putting off the inevitable.
         
        01-29-2013, 08:09 AM
      #17
    Foal
    Let me try to check his x-rays again later today - like I said with the upper, I'm not completely sure.. I know there's a big difference though, so I'll check to be sure!

    Sorry for the confusion - and thanks for being patient with me!
         
        01-30-2013, 11:07 PM
      #18
    Foal
    Would it be easier to just post photos of his xrays? I honestly don't know enough about it to be judging it without a vet's guidance.
         
        01-31-2013, 07:57 AM
      #19
    Trained
    Probably would be - I'm sure there are people out there who know how to tell a clean xray from one showing arthritic changes, and therefore can pinpoint which joint any changes are in.
         
        02-05-2013, 09:11 PM
      #20
    Foal
    Alright, here are two of his xrays. The problem is mostly in his right hind hock. Sorry for the quality, I had to take screenshots! Hope someone can see them though. XD



         

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