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  • Putting weight and topline on a thoroughbred
  • Knowing horse conformational faults

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    05-31-2012, 03:26 PM
  #11
Yearling
I got some more!

1) Doodles-- I know, I already posted one of her, but that was a year ago.
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2) Big Daddy-- QH gelding, and a grandson of Dash For Cash.
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3) Annie-- QH mare.
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    05-31-2012, 05:18 PM
  #12
Yearling
Hey(: If you want, I could share the study guide that my team used to study for State Finals this year with you!! It was a pretty good one, if I do say so myself! ;)

It focuses on the weak points of my team, with some emphasis on weaknesses of specific team members! ;) It doesn't exactly cover the "basic" aspects at this point because at this point we had that down, and it has a lot about performance classes, particularly english performance classes. HOWEVER, it's a good study guide with some good sample classes, and it should help(;

Just let me know, I'd be more than willing to share it with you!
     
    05-31-2012, 09:43 PM
  #13
Foal
Hey!
Thanks mudpie! I'd love some tips any time!

Now......

First place- Doodles
I like the slope to her shoulders & pasterns. When you have a horse that is properly shaped in their shoulders, they're more comfortable to ride. She has strong, clean, hooves and her hocks are out from under her (not cramped below her stifles). I like her wither height, which allows for more shoulder room and are the right ingrediants for a longer, smoother stride. She has a nice head and clean, deep throatlatch. She's the longest crouped of them all, which has a nice "eye appeal". She's a really nice horse!

Second Place- Annie
Annie also has a pretty good shoulder & pastern slope, and I like her wither height possibly more than Doodles. Her hocks & knees are around the same height which is good, and her hocks are out from under her. She's shorter in the neck than I'd like, but she has a relatively clean throatlatch (I couldn't see it that well in the picture).

Third Place- Big Daddy
Third and Fourth were pretty much the same, but I placed him higher because I really like his withers and croup height! They're level, if not, the croup is a little higher which (I think) is good. He has a clean throatlatch and good pasterns. His slope to the shoulders is a little choppy and could be "slopeier" (if that's even a word lol). He's shorter and thicker in the neck then I'd like to see, but I suppose that comes with the breed! I really like his head. It's short, broad, and overall looks good!

Fourth Place- Buzz
Buzz' hocks are out, and his wither height is really good! He is shallow in the croup and his tail is higher than I'd like, but he has a good neck length and shoulder slope. His throatlatch isn't as clean as some of the others, but he has good, strong skeletal structure!

Thanks everyone for their input (and BarrelBunny, for your magnificent entries!)
Is anyone up for another category? You guys can choose this time what breed...

I'll be outta town for the next few days, but after that, I can judge again!

If anyone has corrections to my judging, or questions about stuff, feel free to ask!

Thoroughbred Lover
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    05-31-2012, 11:19 PM
  #14
Weanling
How about a judging based on suitability to a discipline. Like for jumpers? That way any breed and gender could enter and get feedback on if the horse has form for jumping...
     
    05-31-2012, 11:39 PM
  #15
Yearling
I PMed you(:

Are you giving reasons on the class your judging? If so, I can show you how to take notes and the format for putting together a set of reasons(:

Critique on your judging:

Well, first off, this isn't really a truly placeable class, because you'll never judge mares against geldings. You look for different things in each gender, so I can't really place this class.

Since I'm not sure if you're going to give a set of reasons, I'll just correct any incorrect usage of terms. (:

1) Kudos on recognizing the correct angle of her pasterns! Not sure what you mean by "not cramped under her stifle." Typically, you won't judge a horse by their hooves, unless they have an incorrect angle about them. You won't use the term "height of withers." You can say that the horse has "prominent withers" or "round, sloping withers" if need be. Something you didn't mention that you should've seen is that she stands over at the knee. Also, when you're judging, start at the head and work back.

Faults - This mare has big, less attractive ears. Her neck ties in sloppily at her shoulder. She has a short croup. She is also built downhill.

2) First off, you're not going to want to use the term "pretty nice." Instead, "quality" and synonyms are better choices. And once again "wither height" is a strange term. Her "hocks & knees" being the "same height" isn't really something that's relevant at all. Her "hocks being out from under her" is also irrelevant, and not necessarily a good thing. You should recognize that she has a long, sloping croup with an excellent angle. You're correct about the short length of her neck, as well.

Faults - Long face, large ears. Steep shoulder angle. Long pasterns. Tied up in flanks.

3) You don't want to talk about the "croup and withers being level." You can say the horse is balanced. Also, the horse being built downhill is a major fault, not a good thing! Don't use the term "choppy!" There's no such thing as a "choppy" shoulder angle – there is steep and sloping, but no "choppy." xD His neck is not short or thick, it is turned to the side. Actually, it looks nice, but I can't see because he's looking towards the camera.

Faults - He lacks muscling over his topline. He has a flat croup, and is parrot mouthed.

4) This picture is really poor to judge by, so I won't even try. XD You don't want to say anything about "hocks out..." That's all I can really say... (:


I think that you really have the right idea(: If you need any help at all, don't hesitate to ask!!
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    06-04-2012, 06:59 PM
  #16
Foal
Thanks!

IDK, I'm really new to this, but somewhere I learned along the road that-
Wither height was good and well-let-down hocks allowed for more length of stride. Also, does the "clean throatlatch" amount to anything? I thought that the horse would have more capability of flexing at the poll...
What do you mean by over at the knee? (Darn, I'm losing my Horsebowl knowledge already!)
I had NO idea that you're supposed to judge them from the head down, thanks!

Thoroughbred Lover
     
    06-05-2012, 08:53 AM
  #17
Ink
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Lover    
Thanks!

IDK, I'm really new to this, but somewhere I learned along the road that-
Wither height was good and well-let-down hocks allowed for more length of stride. Also, does the "clean throatlatch" amount to anything? I thought that the horse would have more capability of flexing at the poll...
What do you mean by over at the knee? (Darn, I'm losing my Horsebowl knowledge already!)
I had NO idea that you're supposed to judge them from the head down, thanks!

Thoroughbred Lover
Over at the knee is where the cannon bone doesn't come out of the knee at a straight angle. Resulting in a slight forward bend in the horses leg when it's standing. It's pretty slight on that first mare, buy it's a bit easier to see on my horse (picture attached below). While it is a conformational fault, it typically won't cause as many soundness issues as some of the other leg faults.

Here's some from the front:





Here are the back end leg faults:




I'm not sure what you mean by "well let-down hocks" but ideally you do want the horse to have a relatively short cannon bone. But the main thing you're looking for in the back end from the side is can you drop a line from the horses croup and have it line up perfectly with the back of the cannon bone (see picture above).

Yes you want a nice clean throat-latch to allow for more flexibility.
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    06-05-2012, 12:46 PM
  #18
Foal
Thanks, Ink! I can see "over at the knee" pretty well on Dublin, too! Short cannons are basically what I meant by "well let down hocks".

Does anyone have a few more horses to judge? (and hopefully I'll do better this time!) The next category will be the first horse that is posted, then we'll stick with that breed. Thanks everyone!
     
    06-05-2012, 06:58 PM
  #19
Weanling
10 year old QH/Paint Mare


*Note she is a rescue and we are still putting weight on her topline and ribcage*

5 year old TB Gelding



6 Year old Warmblood Gelding




14 Year Old Arabian Mare


Haha fat little pony.

Okay so I'm not sure what breed you mentioned we would be sticking with but I put a few different breeds up there.
     
    06-05-2012, 10:30 PM
  #20
Foal
Tink

8-year-old paint mare. Also for sale ;)
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