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        06-17-2014, 03:23 PM
      #1
    Foal
    Bib clip? Chase?

    I have a TB gelding that's kinda out of shape. After a good workout free lunging jumps, the other day, I noticed that he was quite sweaty. Especially on his neck and shoulders. His whole body was steaming, and it took a long time to walk him cool. I couldn't hose him as it was a rather windy day and I didn't want him wet and cold.

    His winter coat is almost completely gone, btw. So I want to give him a bib clip or a low chase clip, but I can't decide if Id need to blanket... I'm in western Washington, so we get some rainy/windy days, so maybe blanket this fall? But our summers aren't usually too bad. Should I still get him some coverage?

    Also, I will be getting a light rain-proof sheet, and a wool cooler/sweat wicker-awayer. If that makes any difference.

    Any opinions? ��
         
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        06-17-2014, 04:37 PM
      #2
    Yearling
    I wouldn't clip him anymore in the summer. Make sure the winter coat is out, after sweating rub the coat with a dry towel or hay/straw to get excess sweat out, walk the horse well before that, and if needed blanket with a cooler blanket, if the weather is nasty.
    My horse sometimes works himself up during a lunge, and if it is not very cold and rainy and windy, then I don't do much. He will dry up quick anyway in summer, as the coat is short.
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        06-17-2014, 05:24 PM
      #3
    Foal
    I don't get what you mean by clip him anymore.. The only time I've taken clippers to him was to make a bridle path. I haven't actually done the clip yet. Sorry if that wasn't exactly clear. ��

    And he doesn't dry up with warmth. That's why I'm looking into clipping before we hot really warm weather. We had some warmish weather last week and he only got sweatier (with a similar amount of work, if not less cause it was warm), and he seemed uncomfortable as we walked afterwards. I went slowly, and in the shade, but he didn't cool off very well. I finally decided to hose him, and I borrowed a wool cooler till he was dry.
         
        06-17-2014, 06:04 PM
      #4
    Yearling
    You might want to consult a vet for his extra sweating. I have a dark horse, who gets extra warm during hot days, but he rarely sweats on his own (unless he loses his mind and runs around like a nutcase), but he dries quite quickly after work.
    I know a mare that will run herself soaking wet when big bloodsuckers are around. She really hates them.

    About clipping, I meant that this late in summer a horse should not be clipped, because that will mainly ruin his looks for summer. There has to be a reason why he is like that. Maybe there is too much work for him, or he is stressing about something? Does the sweat collect in working areas (shoulder, chest, neck, behind hind legs, a bit on flanks), or does he get soaked all over?
         
        06-17-2014, 06:10 PM
      #5
    Weanling
    If he is really sweating that much, I would run it past your vet to see if anything needs to be ruled out. I would do a full clip to make it less obvious. I have done full body clips in the summer for horse that show on the "A" circuit to help them stay cool, and to help looks - particularly with greys. Moisturize, moisturizer moisturize afterwards.... I like to do a hot oil treatment, but some use mayo or cholesterol.
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        06-18-2014, 02:00 PM
      #6
    Foal
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    you might want to consult a vet for his extra sweating. I have a dark horse, who gets extra warm during hot days, but he rarely sweats on his own (unless he loses his mind and runs around like a nutcase), but he dries quite quickly after work.
    I know a mare that will run herself soaking wet when big bloodsuckers are around. She really hates them.

    About clipping, I meant that this late in summer a horse should not be clipped, because that will mainly ruin his looks for summer. There has to be a reason why he is like that. Maybe there is too much work for him, or he is stressing about something? Does the sweat collect in working areas (shoulder, chest, neck, behind hind legs, a bit on flanks), or does he get soaked all over?
    I have asked the vet and she says he's just green and out of shape. She says not to let him get away with just galloping around, and to make his work very stimulating, so he's engaged in a job. Rather than his usual running around willy-nilly.

    We must not be in the same area, its technically not quite summer here. Our calendars "first day of summer" is marked for June 21st, and that is this Saturday.

    He's sweating in those "working areas" definitely. I've never had a horse so worked up that it's just drenched. He's not doing a lot of work either. Like, our routine is usually to warm up, and then do some w/t/c work. Then trot or canter ground poles and get his feet going. Then he takes a few jumps and we cool out. This is all on a lunge line or free lunging btw. He's not quite ready to do much more than walk u/s.

    Small rant/extra info: his previous owner left him as a pasture ornament and he lost significant muscle and training. :( He's only 6 though, so it's coming back to him pretty quickly..
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        06-18-2014, 02:13 PM
      #7
    Yearling
    If there is nothing physically wrong with him, then I'd say you might want to build him up to the work load slower. If he's drenched after a workout in our current weather then he's getting too much of a workout, even if it doesn't seem like much to you.

    For instance, my mare who is currently overweight and does more hanging out in a pasture than working has always sweated easily. I gave her a decent workout on Monday evening and the only sweat she had was where the girth was. When I had to bring her back into shape after her baby was weaned in 2012, I did lots of short sessions (like 20 minutes) and she became fit very quickly. You don't have to go long and hard, just do it short and often. Get him hot, but not super sweaty and then stop.
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        06-18-2014, 02:18 PM
      #8
    Weanling
    I'm in SW BC so similar climate to you. I would not clip the horse. I would let the rest of his winter coat come out and bring him back to work more slowly. I rode a horse once that was so fat and out of shape that a few minutes of walking under saddle had her sweaty.

    If you want to clip him in the fall and winter I would wait until you see his sweat pattern after a work out in his thicker coat, then clip accordingly and blanket as necessary. IE, if you are working him hard enough that he's pretty well sweaty all over, a full body clip. If it's just his neck and chest, then a bib. But you will need multiple blankets of varying thickness and either time to check on him a few times throughout the day or a barn owner who is willing, to ensure he does not get to hot or cold.
         
        06-18-2014, 05:09 PM
      #9
    Foal
    Seeing as some of you are mentioning that I'm working him too hard, I feel I should add the following: after a walk/trot warm up, his muscles are warm and ready to do more "strenuous" things like canter or go over poles and small jumps. I do maybe 10ish minutes of actual work, then cool him out. The whole session takes only around 30 minutes. And I always finish with him still able to do more. I don't like to wear horses out, even for the purpose of a "good hard workout". (Its like competing, you enter half or 2/3 the classes your horse could do, and they finish with energy left, not all worn out.)

    Also I don't mind if his coat looks odd because of /when/ I clipped it. I don't really care how he looks as we won't be doing any showing or anything. I'm more concerned about his comfort. For instance, I'm not super confident in my body (I'm still working on that whole "toned" thing lol). But id rather work out in a tank top, and not look good, than work out in a long sleeved tee, or in a hoodie and sweat like crazy. Catch my drift? :)

    And yes, my barn owner is very accommodating and does blanket changes and checks on the horses and things like that. Blanketing is free of charge too, so it wouldn't be an issue for me to add that in on the days in I'm not there for too long.
         
        06-18-2014, 05:46 PM
      #10
    Green Broke
    I don't think anyone has suggested that you're not warming him up or cooling him out sufficiently. Rather, it's that the level of work you're describing; free jumping, even over small jumps, is very strenuous for how you've described his level of fitness (not ready to do more than walk under saddle). I wouldn't expect a horse who isn't fit enough to do more than walk under saddle to do more than walk/trot on a lunge line, perhaps with some ground poles.
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