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post #1 of 18 Old 08-02-2007, 12:22 PM Thread Starter
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black horses gone bay

Hello everyone,I have two black horses.A percheron and a tennessee walker.They both are purely black in the winter and fall and spring but in the summer they go out in the sun and turn bay on me.Ive asked a few of my friends around here what they would suggest and one said something about putting small amounts of paprika in their food to keep them black.i've never heard of this so i'm just wondering what you think about it or if you have any other hints and tips. thanks!

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post #2 of 18 Old 08-02-2007, 09:07 PM
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Are they getting sunbleached? If that is the case then the only thing you can really do for that is throw a sheet or something on them, or so i would think. Otherwise would you consider the fact that there probably not black horses but dark browns or possibly bays. I currently have a mare and had a gelding at my barn who both look black in the cooler months but when summer rolls around they show their true colors! Everybody swears up n down the blacks untill there seen in the summer! By the way both were mostly stall kept! The one in the closest to the camara in the pic most certainly does not look black to me he/she looks brown or dark bay( could be just me) lol I dont know if that was any help or if im just talkin non-sense but any ways there's my two cents
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post #3 of 18 Old 08-02-2007, 11:29 PM
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your horses are most definently black sunbleached horses. *i can tell because they have black, not brown, noses*.
Someone at my barn uses supplements that keep their horses black, but i also heard that those can get expensive.
I'm not sure about paprika, i've never heard of that method, so i dont know if it will harm the horses stomach.
if it's not hot where you live you can put a sheet on the horses.
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post #4 of 18 Old 08-03-2007, 10:56 PM
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abby is the say way...i just let it be

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post #5 of 18 Old 08-05-2007, 08:10 PM
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Yeh the sun bleaches their coats , rug fixes that!
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post #6 of 18 Old 08-13-2007, 11:25 PM
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My horses are browner than that and they are Friesians! Everyone is laughing because they are supposed to be black. Well, I put fly sheets on one and he did stay black but I just couldn't keep it on when the weather got unbearably hot. I know a lot of Friesian owners turn their horses out at night and keep them in out of the sun in the day. During the summer, I have brown happy horses Check out some Friesian forums. They are constantly talking about how to keep their horses black or grow their mane long. One breeder I know swears by "black as knight" but I think that is a paprika blend also.
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post #7 of 18 Old 08-14-2007, 07:13 PM
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I was just about to suggest Black as Knight! We've used it before and from personal experience, it works great! And you can use it with any color horse, they even have some that make's your Red horse redder. You add a little bit to their feed everyday. I don't remember how much it cost's, but I'm sure you could find it on the internet or maybe at a feed store.
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post #8 of 18 Old 08-15-2007, 12:50 AM
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Its definately from sunbleaching

I would just put a light cotton rug and hood on during summer or a fly sheet to stop the bleaching
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post #9 of 18 Old 08-15-2007, 01:14 AM
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I do agree with it being sunbleaching to a certain degree, and rugging will most definitely help.

the horse in the picture I would say is more a brown-black than a true black, even though he has a black nose as mentioned above, he still has fawn flanks (around his stifle area) true blacks do not have this.

I would love to know where the blackening product is found and even its red counterpart, I am yet to find a good colour enhancer for bays that doesn't make them go blotchy

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post #10 of 18 Old 08-15-2007, 09:53 PM
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RUG RUG RUG RUG!! Nice horses by the way!!

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