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post #1 of 10 Old 04-27-2011, 07:23 AM Thread Starter
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Unhappy change in horses behaviour can you help

I have a dartmoor cross new forest, he has always been a cheeky chap but recently his bahaviour has got worse unless the other horses are in I can't catch him from the field and even then when I catch him some times he will spin and try to double barrel me out the field. When I put him in the school he try to bolt on the lunge line and then can't be caught and even if I catch him on the lunge line he bolts again and he is a strong pony. His behaviour has really started to get me down as I don't know what has happened. He is only fed on happy hoof and spearmint. I also found out a couple of days ago that a guy at the back of my yard has fed him a large amount of cut grass could this have something to do with his behaviour?

Can you help? Will be grateful for any suggestions
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post #2 of 10 Old 04-29-2011, 04:25 PM
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I'm not sure what the damage out cut grass does, but I know it is not healty. How often are you riding him? Whenever you go out there do you only work him? If you are try bonding with him. Go and just brush him and give him treats and then put him back. Make you seeing him be a happ time not just work.

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post #3 of 10 Old 04-30-2011, 04:23 PM Thread Starter
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hi, yeah it is bad for them. I have had him 7 years and we have a really good bond. I have tried getting him in giving him a groom and some treats then puttin him back out but then when I go to re catch him as he's stabled at night I can't catch him until the other horses are in again. I don't know what has got into him, but I really want to get hi out of it before I get hurt or he hurts himself.
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post #4 of 10 Old 05-01-2011, 04:45 AM
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does he go into his stable fine? It might be that he wants to stay out during the night and not go into his stable?

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post #5 of 10 Old 05-01-2011, 09:34 AM
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Tell your neighbor to "cease and desist" feeding your horse cut grass clippings, meaning "stop doing it and stop doing it now". Even worse case scenario would cut lawn clippings as in "fines" of lawn clippings from a lawn mower. There is no telling what specie of grass your horse is receiving from your neighbor's feeding, but there are several grasses that have toxin properities to them that could cause a multiple of symptoms in horses.

If I'm not mistaken cut grass lawn clippings can cause impaction colic, because the horse is inclined to swallow the "cut fines" of lawn mown grass sense they have less chewing/mastacation to do to swallow. I can be wrong in this, but it certainly is a concern.

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post #6 of 10 Old 05-01-2011, 09:52 AM
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I don't know much about it at all but I've heard that sacroiliac problems can lead in changed behaviour

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post #7 of 10 Old 05-01-2011, 10:30 AM
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I have been told that cut grass can cause them to choak also. Cause they do not chew it up.
It sounds to me like he has lost all respect for you and thinks he is the domanet herd leader. It probable has been going on for a long time just gradulay where you did not notice it till on day it was like bam what happend to my horse. I love Clinton Anderson lunging for respect.

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post #8 of 10 Old 05-01-2011, 02:44 PM
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The danger with lawn mower clippings is the very rapid fermentation which is dangerous to horses. Arm yourself with a ton of patience, your halter and lead plus a few treats. Instead of chasing your horse think of it as driving him so when heading out to him don't even look at him. Circle around until you are aligned with his hindquarters and just start walking toward his bum. Of course he'll move, Realign yourself again and keep him moving. What you are doing is driving him as an alpha horse would. By doing this you are claiming the spot where he was eating. He will move on to another spot that you will claim. Be sure to stand there a few seconds then move on. Eventually he will turn to face you. Too bad, Realign and move him. When he will stand squarely and face you approach him straight on and talk to him. If he looks to his left, you look to the opposite. If he walks away you must also in the opposite direction and beginning the driving again. When finally he will extend his nose to your outstretched fist (saying hello) give him a treat then turn and start walking away, beckoning him with your hand to follow. You can stop partway to the gate and offer another treat by just holding it out to your side.
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post #9 of 10 Old 05-01-2011, 04:05 PM
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As stated above, yes. Cut grass is not healthy for your horse and is dangerous for them to consume.

Also as far as your horse's changed behavior, I have gone through this as well with my mare. That was because before I was severely injured, all I did was work with her every time I went out there. Of course I groomed her and all of that, but I also worked her. And hard. Mostly just lunging, but I made her sweat to keep her toned. After about a month of just doing this, she became a pain in the butt to catch out in the pasture, she'd play the "catch me if you can." game.

Once I got injured, I went out there as much as I was able to, and just groomed her. That was all I did. I just spent time with her. I just sat outside and watched them graze. Since I've gotten somewhat better, I've kept up with just grooming her, and then I work in a little bit of lunging every day. I up it 5 more minutes every work out. You just have to work on your bond, you might even have to re-heal a bond that may have been broken.
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post #10 of 10 Old 05-03-2011, 07:36 PM
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It all starts with trust. If this horse doesnt trust you than you will not accomplish anything.
Start slowly by earning his trust, I advise searching for a book or searching online. I for one know that there are many threads on horse forums that will give you advise.
Remember that this horse is feeding itself off of your fear, once its gone he will be fine.


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