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        08-02-2009, 10:30 PM
      #21
    Showing
    Frankly, I wouldn't let kids even to crawl under or next to back feet of my young mares much less the stud (even the calmest one ever). You just never know what can happen - any horse can spook at something unexpected and hit the kid, stud can notice his girlfriend is taken and decide it's time to call it back. It's just a Murphy Law - bad things sometime wait to happen...
         
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        08-03-2009, 02:27 AM
      #22
    Weanling
    In the US there are serious liability risks to having a stud and children are legally not allowed to ride them, I don't know if that includes handling but you are 100% liable if something happens, so for that reason I would be catious about letting anyone handle a stud. For me, I have mixed feelings. I had one stallion I groomed occasionally for six months without knowing it was a stallion, never bothered to check, thought the owner would tell me, oh by the way he's a stallion, I was surprised to realize one day he had balls. I couldn't believe it, but I still call him the best stud I ever handled. But IMO stallions should only be stallions if they are exceptional in every way including temperment, otherwise, why breed something less than superior? Your only promoting bad genetics and stud fee's aren't that much for a really nice stallion (unless it's the racing industry, then it's not usually a kid friendly place in the first place, so I don't care, and in the off chance you geld Mine That Bird, it kinda sucks). So stallions are a mixed bag, but I wouldn't recommend letting a kid around one, but maybe I'm just cautious.
         
        08-03-2009, 01:20 PM
      #23
    Weanling
    I think that any horse can be dangerous. Studs aren't the only ones. If I saw children climbing under a mare I would get mad and tell them to knock it off, I would do the same with a gelding.

    Personally, I can crawl under my gelding, slid off his butt, anything and everything. He is 20 and most people would say oh well he is a gelding and older, it is ok for kids to do that since he is trained. Well guess what, when he is around a mare [they don't even have to be in heat] he will nicker and then strike out with his hoof. He will stop if I scold him before the act fully happens. But one day in the field I was paying attention and him and our mare were touching noses and he did the stomp/strike thing and caught my calf, left a huge rug burn and bruise.

    I think that no matter what gener the horse is you can't classify it. My gelding acts like a stud at times, a mare at times and a perfectly trained gelding at times. It just depends. Caution should be used around all horses no matter how calm they are portrayed to be.
         
        08-03-2009, 04:21 PM
      #24
    Yearling
    As long as a horse is trained well, he should be fine around children. Any horse can be dangerous if not trained properly.
         
        08-03-2009, 10:38 PM
      #25
    Yearling
    I had a stud pony when I was a kid that was always a perfect gentlemen; even if a few mares were hanging around, the most he'd do is get to bellering at them, and sometimes he'd pick up his feet and puff his chest. My gelding, on the other hand, just *has* to go over and have a look at every unfamiliar mare that comes along, and if he's riding with a mare in heat, he can be a pain to keep under control; definitely not a horse I'd hand to a kid.
         
        08-05-2009, 03:46 PM
      #26
    Foal
    When I was 14 I rode for a few lessons at a dressage facility in Portugal with all Lusitano studs. They were certainly safe around someone my age (someone who knew how to handle horses safely; I certainly wasn't crawling through his legs), though I think a 5 year old would've been pushing it (but I don't consider 5 year olds safe around most horses without supervision). There was probably less risk without mares around on a regular basis, but it is possible to have very sane studs (who can even work in and around other studs with no aggression issues).
         
        08-09-2009, 11:22 PM
      #27
    Foal
    You know I think this might also be a case of the time too....

    When I was a kid I volunteered at the stables I took lessons at, this stables was huge! There were 25+ barn owned horses (they were a trail riding facility/rental horse facility, they gave lessons, pony rides,trail rides, held rodeos, and had two additional barns for borders) it was a military run stables on Camp Lejune in NC (today the stables is still there but there are no more rental horses it is all privately owned borders, what I'm about to talk about is the middle picture on the last row of pictures on the link above. It definantly looks different than it did when I hung out there, now half the poles are gone and it no longer has a dirt floor.). I was one of many 'barn rats' that spent all of my free time at the stables. They had most of their horses hooked to a line during busy parts of the day, quick release clasps, short leads on a row under a perminant canopy/open barn (for a lack of better words). The lines were hooked to parallel poles driven into the ground. Anyways I, along with many other kids ranging in ages, were aloud to be all around these horses, under them, on top of them, behind them, between the bars what not. We were sort of supervised by employees, when ever they walked by while doing their various jobs. NOW this would never ever happen in todays stable, because of the liability issues and the lack of trust, that children know what to do if a horse has a problem.

    SO I'm thinking that while you look at these pictures you have to remember (unless you are alot younger than me, and I'm really not that old at all) that it was a different time. I'd take it with a grain of salt and just be smart about what you (general you) decide to let kids do around the horses you own, whether its a stud, gelding, or mare. Every horse is different and lets just hope that you know your horse and you know who (and their ability)you choose to be around it. That's my two cents regarding the OP.
         
        08-13-2009, 06:55 PM
      #28
    Foal
    Not all stallys are bad it are riding horses too
         
        08-16-2009, 09:46 AM
      #29
    Weanling
    I agree there are nice studs out there and if you have one and you want to have your kids or relatives mess with them that is fine. If you are running a business and there are kids around I think you should separate the studs from the children. It is just not worth the liability, because if anything did happen, if it was the studs fault or not you would most likely be found liable because it is a stud.

    When I was a kid the place I rode had 3 very aggressive studs. I was cleaning their stalls with a lunge whip when I was 10. Also, she had us bring a stud out of a field with just a halter made from a lead rope. This was totally unsafe and I know that now. Looking back it is amazing that I did not get hurt.

    Now that I am planning my own small boarding facility. I am going to have a rule, no studs. I am not interested in breeding and I don't want to take on the extra liability.
         
        08-16-2009, 02:11 PM
      #30
    Yearling
    I agree. Some stallions arent bad
         

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