Color Enhancing Supplement - Page 2
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Keeping and Caring for Horses > Horse Grooming

Color Enhancing Supplement

This is a discussion on Color Enhancing Supplement within the Horse Grooming forums, part of the Keeping and Caring for Horses category

    Like Tree16Likes

     
    LinkBack Thread Tools
        02-04-2013, 05:17 PM
      #11
    Started
    I just want Cody not to fade in the summer and I don't like too coop him up or sheet him.
    ArabLover1999 likes this.
         
    Sponsored Links
    Advertisement
     
        02-04-2013, 06:16 PM
      #12
    Green Broke
    Paprika is safe for horses and I use about a tbls once or twice a day. It does darken the coat, but use it in active growth phases like now and early autumn.
    I also give freshly ground flax seed to all my horses; it also helps decrease fading.

    Here's the best explanation of Paprika I have found in all my researching nutrition and supplements: Warning-- long:

    By: MW
    Melyni (PhD) PAS, Dipl. ACAN

    Okay a few factoids;
    There are basically two pigments in the hair of the horse Eumelanin which is black and phaeomelanin which is red or no melanin which is white. The pigments occur in microscopic granules and are laid down between the strands of Keratin which make up the hairshaft.

    The pigment granules are produced at the base of the hairshaft and can be laid down in the shaft in various different patterns (genetically controlled) .
    They can be all around the hair shaft, or just on one side (dilution gene) or just on the inner surface of the shaft (double dilution gene).

    Once laid down and the hair has grown out of the root bed, they cannot be added too, but they can be destroyed or altered by the action of chemicals or sunlight or both.

    The biochemical pathway which produces both pigments involves an enzyme that uses copper ions as an electron acceptor. Thus for the pigments to be produced fully there needs to be copper present in the cell.

    If the horse (or cow) is short of copper then the enzyme can't do it;s job and the pigments are produced slowly if at all and sometimes in a different form.
    So to ensure that the animal gets it's full dose of pigment synthsized you need to ensure a supply of copper in the diet.
    Paprika is rich in copper flavenoids, especially the Hungarian paprika.

    Thus as long as you feed a supplement rich in copper the hairs will get their full dose of pigment. BUT this only happens when the hairs are being produced as they grow, once they are grown, you cannot add any more pigment, you can only either lose it to the action of sunlight and or chemicals.
    So once the hair has grown you can improve the texture of the hair (more on that later) but not the content. You can add pigment to the outer layers as in dyeing, but not to the inner hair shaft.

    Part of the appearance of the color is not only where in the shaft the pigment granules lie but the refractive index of the scales that coat the outside of the hair shaft ( I warned you that there would be physics involved).
    Whene the hair is new and young the scales have a good supply of sebum, the oil which coats them and they have a high refractive index, the light gets bounced around within the hair shaft and the hairs appear darker and shinier.
    As the hairs age they lose the sebum, and the scales begin to peel away and the hair appears less shiny and lighter.
    So to help the hair keep it's refractive index you can
    A) give the horse a high fat diet which makes the little sebacous glands at the base of the hair produce more sebum, which coats the hairs and they appear darker and shinier (hence why Platinum Performance, a high fat supplement based on flax seed causes a darker coat).
    Or B) apply a conditioner with oils in it to the hairshaft. This will also cause the little scales to lie down flat and improve the refractive index.
    You can also apply a coating of conditioner with little tiny reflective scales in it these tiny scales add to the refractive index and make the hair shinier.

    But anything applied to the outside of the hair shaft is going to be temporary at best.
    Things on the inside last a bit longer.

    But the bottom line is to make a hair coat darker and shinier use a mix of copper and fat. The fat has an immediate effect the copper when the next coat change occurs.

    BTW if you eat a lot of Hungarian paprika your skin will get a darker shinier color as well, that's what the feed through fake tans are based on.
    Your hair will grow darker as well, but you'll see it first in the skin.

    MW
    Melyni (PhD) PAS, Dipl. ACAN.
         
        02-04-2013, 06:29 PM
      #13
    Weanling
    Druydess, thank you for the explanation. That was very interesting. Now I'm thinking about adding more paprika to my diet.
    HorseCrazyTeen likes this.
         
        02-04-2013, 06:38 PM
      #14
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 2horses    
    Druydess, thank you for the explanation. That was very interesting. Now I'm thinking about adding more paprika to my diet.
    LOL-- You're very welcome. Paprika and cayenne are also extremely good for the immune system. Contrary to popular opinion, studies now have proven they actually help/sure certain ulcers.
         
        02-04-2013, 08:31 PM
      #15
    Foal
    How much paprika should I feed them each per feeding? (I feed mine twice a day)
         
        02-04-2013, 09:46 PM
      #16
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by arablover1999    
    how much paprika should I feed them each per feeding? (i feed mine twice a day)
    1-2 tbls
    Remember-- it has to be an active growth phase.. Now-- and late summer/early fall. When the days start to shorten, begin supplementing.
         
        02-04-2013, 09:49 PM
      #17
    Started
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Druydess    
    LOL-- You're very welcome. Paprika and cayenne are also extremely good for the immune system. Contrary to popular opinion, studies now have proven they actually help/sure certain ulcers.
    well if I can help keep my black on my paint looking as good as the horse in your avatar than I will feed some paprika and flax seed :) time to research more
         
        02-04-2013, 10:06 PM
      #18
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Critter sitter    
    well if I can help keep my black on my paint looking as good as the horse in your avatar than I will feed some paprika and flax seed :) time to research more
    That's my young stallion Dream, and he is indeed given Paprika and freshly ground flax daily. It also gives vibrance to the coat. But-- sun will still bleach a coat. Give the paprika during active growing phases.
    Grind the flax yourself-- it is very unstable and needs to be used as soon as possible.

    Even going out during the day after noon-time.. this is what flax and paprika have done for Dream:



    BTW-- This is his WINTER coat.
    HorseCrazyTeen likes this.
         
        02-04-2013, 11:45 PM
      #19
    Yearling
    I had a thread on paprika a few months ago. I am going to start giving it to my horse here pretty soon. Here's the link to it for more info, though Druydess did a smack-up job on explaining! Paprika for horse coat color enhancement?
         
        02-05-2013, 04:08 AM
      #20
    Weanling
    I use SmartPak's Smart Dark and Handsome on my palomino....LOVE IT. This is my second season to use it.
         

    Quick Reply
    Please help keep the Horse Forum enjoyable by reporting rude posts.
    Message:
    Options

    Register Now

    In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

    Already have a Horse Forum account?
    Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

    New to the Horse Forum?
    Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

    User Name:
    Password
    Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
    Password:
    Confirm Password:
    Email Address
    Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
    Email Address:

    Log-in

    Human Verification

    In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


    Old Thread Warning
    This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

    « Braids | Cross Ties »
    Thread Tools

    Similar Threads
    Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
    Jell-O Coat Enhancing? ArabLover1999 Horse Nutrition 7 01-22-2013 10:05 PM
    Gallop Color Enhancing Shampoo sarahkgamble Horse Grooming 10 04-27-2012 12:22 PM
    color enhancing shampoo question HorseOfCourse Horse Grooming 2 07-23-2011 10:05 AM
    performance enhancing drugs antonymhaslam Horse Health 0 03-02-2011 05:29 AM
    Color Enhancing Shampoos TheRoughrider21 Horse Grooming 3 08-27-2009 08:54 PM



    All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:59 AM.


    Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
    Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0