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post #1 of 68 Old 05-22-2011, 09:49 PM Thread Starter
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Farrier hitting horses.. Opinions?

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What is your opinion on your farrier hitting your horse? If it pulls it's foot away or kicks out is it okay to you? What would you do if a farrier did hit your horse?

My aunt and I are trying to decide if we should switch farrowed or not because I think mine is getting a little too comfortable with us or something and she hit my pony.. Not abusively, but it was a couple good whacks. I personally wants to switch, but good farriers are hard to come by around here.
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Personally, I don't mind it if it's not abusive and within good reason. Eventually your horse will stop pulling away, and stand quietly. If the farrier were to turn around and start whooping your horse like a crazed manic just for pulling away then yes i'd say get a new one, but if it's only a small reprimand for being irritating (pulling away nibbling butts, putting all the weight on the farrier) it's no biggie IMO.

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i think its ok as long as its not abusive. i trust my farrier and i also dont want him to get hurt. if that means he has to hit my horse, im sure they deserved it.

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That's a tough one. Knee jerk reaction is to say, nobody should be hitting your horse. Farriers though have to work in a very dangerous area and it's not their job to train the horse. While she might not be using the best method to keep the horse from pulling back, she sounds like she's doing what's necessary to keep herself from getting kicked.

Like you said, a good farrier is hard to come by. I finally found one worth his weight in gold, and my horse chose his first visit to act like a butthead. He repeatedly pulled his hind legs back and really ticked him off. I spent the next six weeks working with him on ground manners. Everyday I would pick up his back legs and just hold them. I didn't put them down until he was completely relaxed. I also did some other respect related things such as yielding his hind quarters, sending him through tight spaces and backing up all on a longe line. Next time my farrier came out, he stood like a champ.

My point is, meet her half way. Try to provide her with a more compliant horse next time around. If you absolutely object to her hitting him, maybe ask that she simply hold the leg until he relaxes it. If you do the exercises in advance, you're horse should respond to it quickly and maybe she'll be good with that compromise. That's all I've got.

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I view it kind of the same as with kids, there's a difference between a spanking and a beating. When it goes beyond disaplant to aggression, then theres a problem

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I don't mind. I've witnessed my farrier give some horses a few pretty good whacks. He's probably the best farrier in our area and a very widely respected horseman in general. Not once have the "whacks" been uncalled for. He simply doesn't tolerate any nonsense - from any horse. He works in a dangerous area. If he has a horse that doesn't respect him, he's not going to tolerate it. He is in no way abusive, and the horses usually learn after a few good ones that enough is enough and they don't give him anymore problems in future visits. I love my farrier. :)
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That's a tough one. Knee jerk reaction is to say, nobody should be hitting your horse. Farriers though have to work in a very dangerous area and it's not their job to train the horse. While she might not be using the best method to keep the horse from pulling back, she sounds like she's doing what's necessary to keep herself from getting kicked.

Like you said, a good farrier is hard to come by. I finally found one worth his weight in gold, and my horse chose his first visit to act like a butthead. He repeatedly pulled his hind legs back and really ticked him off. I spent the next six weeks working with him on ground manners. Everyday I would pick up his back legs and just hold them. I didn't put them down until he was completely relaxed. I also did some other respect related things such as yielding his hind quarters, sending him through tight spaces and backing up all on a longe line. Next time my farrier came out, he stood like a champ.

My point is, meet her half way. Try to provide her with a more compliant horse next time around. If you absolutely object to her hitting him, maybe ask that she simply hold the leg until he relaxes it. If you do the exercises in advance, you're horse should respond to it quickly and maybe she'll be good with that compromise. That's all I've got.
This is my opinion. Farriers are literally in danger of dying when working under a horse. It is dangerous, and they will often correct a horse if it gets to be too much. If you don't want her correcting your horse, train it to stand properly.. especially if it is kicking out or acting like it might. I'm not sure if you mentioned kicking out because your horse does it or just for opinions.. but a horse kicking out when the farrier has his or her head down there could seriously injure or kill them, if not end their career. They aren't going to want to risk that, and you aren't paying them to train your horse for you, you're paying them to trim/shoe properly.. so if your horse is acting up, work with him, and perhaps discuss it with your farrier.. he or she -might- be willing to work with your horse as well for an additional fee.
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NOBODY hits my horses! If they are having a problem standing for the farrier, then I have some training issues to take care of. If a farrier felt that my horse was misbehaving to the point that he wanted to smack him, I would rather he just walk away and I will gladly find another farrier.
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^^what if the show is halfway on and your horse is trying to kick him ?

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If it were legal I'm sure the farrier would rather hit the owner than the horse. I only shoe my own horses and sometimes I have to give them a whack to get them paying attention and behaving themselves but most of the time I do it because I am frustrated and loose my temper.

I think if your farrier has to strike your horse you need to work on your horse so that it doesn't happen anymore. It is not the farriers job to train or correct your horse.

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