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    12-28-2011, 06:59 PM
  #1
Foal
Question Growing out a tail, removing stains and polishing hooves?

My Paint mare has a shorter tail than I'd like for a show horse, and it's also incredibly stained - the bottoms of the white hairs are essentially black.

So I was wondering what the best way to grow out her tail to its terminal length would be. I'd look into an extension, but she has the two-toned (black & white) tail. Our first show isn't until the 28th of April so there's a bit of time to work on growth, even though her tail doesn't (seem) to grow very fast. Right now she's on pasture 24/7 and gets a flake each of local grass hay and alfalfa hay as well as alfalfa pellets, soaked beet pulp pellets and SafeChoice concentrated feed twice a day. Totally willing to braid & bag (we have a couple of the Lycra braid-in tail bags), but keep in mind that the weather here is fairly soggy and gross.

I'm also looking for a way to get rid of the stains in her tail - mostly on the ends. We've tried ShowClean, Apple Cider Vinegar rinses and soaks, Dawn dish soap, ORVUS paste, baking soda (with ACV, with the Dawn and on its own) and just regular shampoo. I really don't want to cut it, since I'm not sure that it'll be able to grow back out enough to even be the length it is now.

Also, my mare's like 95% white with some black on her - do I use black hoof polish or clear? Her feet aren't really her strong point - they're a little small for her size (she's ~16hh and I'm pretty sure our ~13hh Icelandic has slightly bigger back feet), but natural color-wise they're not very pretty.
     
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    12-28-2011, 07:45 PM
  #2
Weanling
The best way to increase tail thickness is to not brush or comb it ever! A tail bag is the only way to keep the tail totally clean and free of pee and dirt.

Wash with a good shampoo and condition well. I use Fructis 'Sleek & Shine' for coarse rebellous hair both shampoo and conditioner. Leave the conditioner in for some time and then finger comb the hairs until all the tangles are out, then rinse with warm water.

Put in a tail bag when dry. Purple shampoo helps to make the tail look whiter - the blue in it is an optical illusion.
     
    12-28-2011, 07:55 PM
  #3
Trained
They make custom, 2 colored tails.
     
    12-28-2011, 07:56 PM
  #4
Green Broke
I agree, stay away from brushing. Unfortunately you can't make it grow any faster. As for the two tone, is it is solid chunks or is it really really mixed? A picture may help. If it's chunked, you may get away with whatever color is more prominent in the underneath part.

As for hooves, I would go with clear polish if you must polish. I personally like to use super shiny hair spray because it dries faster, repels the dirt, but doesn't dry out the hooves or have to be removed with a harsh remover later. It will just wash off with water. Also very easy to touch up.
     
    12-28-2011, 08:16 PM
  #5
Foal
I only have a picture from about a year and a half ago, but I'll post it anyways. :)

It's kind of like the center is black and there's an almost complete ring of white around that.




Is there any way to actually remove the stains that are already in her tail? We've already tried just washing it as well as washing with whitening shampoo, ORVUS, etc. (full list is in my OP).

I've heard good things about coconut oil and am planning on trying it after we figure out a way to get rid of the stains. Any other suggestions?
     
    12-28-2011, 08:22 PM
  #6
Green Broke
With that kind of tail, you can get away with a solid black so long as you let the white hairs still fall over it. It will still look natural on your horse.

As for the stains, whatever you use, try to keep the white separate from the black when you use it so you don't accidentally fade out the darker hair. I would just keep it clean as possible and keep it up. Don't worry about the stains right now because if you keep it clean and up, the stains will eventually fade over time as long as it doesn't keep getting dirty.

Also, you may want to contact or PM http://www.horseforum.com/members/28644/ She has a gray (pretty close to white) paint and has a LOT of experience getting stains out and getting the tail ready for show. She also helps a lot of 4-H'rs in our area. I know her from my barn so I have seen her in action with the show grooming!
     
    12-29-2011, 01:22 PM
  #7
Weanling
Uniquely Different Extensions

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Don't be turned away from extensions just because of a two tone tail.
All these companies sell tails for a really great price, and if you send them a picture of your horses tail, and some hair samples, they'll mix a tail for you.

Looks like you'd mainly need all black, with a few extra white hairs mixed in on the top layer..

As far as growth, if her tail has remained this average length, it may be as far as it goes. What you can do though, is keep it moisturized, so the hairs don't break off short, but instead, grow all the way down to it's full length.

I stress over keeping the tail bone clean. That way, they're less likely to scratch and break off new hairs growing in. I'll just take a wet rag, with a little bit of olive oil hair strengthener rubbed in, and run it through the tail.

I'll lightly comb it out with a wide tooth comb, put some coconut oil in, and leave it loose.
I'm not a fan of tail bagging, but if it's a loose one, where the hair can still breath, then it's not too bad.

I personally would use black on her hooves... But that's just me.

I have a bay, so I'm of no help to removing stains.
     
    12-29-2011, 02:01 PM
  #8
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by DejaVu    
Uniquely Different Extensions

Custom Horse Tails, Equine show horse tail enhancers, custom horsehair tails, horse hair Custom Tails

Horse Tail Extension

Don't be turned away from extensions just because of a two tone tail.
All these companies sell tails for a really great price, and if you send them a picture of your horses tail, and some hair samples, they'll mix a tail for you.

Looks like you'd mainly need all black, with a few extra white hairs mixed in on the top layer..

As far as growth, if her tail has remained this average length, it may be as far as it goes. What you can do though, is keep it moisturized, so the hairs don't break off short, but instead, grow all the way down to it's full length.

I stress over keeping the tail bone clean. That way, they're less likely to scratch and break off new hairs growing in. I'll just take a wet rag, with a little bit of olive oil hair strengthener rubbed in, and run it through the tail.

I'll lightly comb it out with a wide tooth comb, put some coconut oil in, and leave it loose.
I'm not a fan of tail bagging, but if it's a loose one, where the hair can still breath, then it's not too bad.

I personally would use black on her hooves... But that's just me.

I have a bay, so I'm of no help to removing stains.
Thank you for the links! Her tail has grown a bit since that picture, mostly in volume, but it has also gained a couple inches in length. I think it's because her system is finally balanced and flushed out. We brought a nutritionist out when we got her since she was fairly skinny (even on the something like 25 cups of feed her former owners were giving her) and she told us that Whitey's system was so toxic from over-feeding concentrated feed that she could ONLY have grass hay, grass from our pasture and orchard grass pellets for 6-9 months - NOTHING else, not even a vitamin supplement.

I'm really looking for the best way to get her natural tail as long and full as is genetically possible for her - but if we get it there and I still want more I'll definitely look into the custom extensions! :)


I've been looking through some pictures from when she had her EasyBoot glue-ons in front, and I'm thinking that I'll go with black - I like the look of the black boots on her fronts better than the natural hoof color that was on her hind feet.


As for her tail, I'm seriously considering separating the white parts out, bleaching them (since all of the stains are at the ends - AWAY from her dock) and then deep-conditioning the entire tail to deal with stains. Then just regular washing and conditioning with coconut oil for maintenance. What do you guys think?
     
    12-29-2011, 02:04 PM
  #9
Yearling
Bleaching a white tail turns it yellow.
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    12-29-2011, 02:14 PM
  #10
Foal
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Originally Posted by lubylol    
Bleaching a white tail turns it yellow.
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Any alternative suggestions? I've heard that some people use use Tide with bleach and have had really good results.
     

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