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post #11 of 20 Old 12-08-2009, 09:29 PM
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Its much much less common in bare feet, the hoof mechanism works enough to keep "flexing" the snow out. And the snow does no0t have as deep an area to pack into.

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post #12 of 20 Old 12-08-2009, 10:06 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the great suggestions! Actually Qwiggly does not have any shoes on .. his hooves are bare! I will try the warm water and Pam!
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post #13 of 20 Old 12-08-2009, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MyBoyQwiggly View Post
Actually Qwiggly does not have any shoes on .. his hooves are bare!
Oh dear, that must be some hardcore snow! Hope we don't get any of tha in Missouri!

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post #14 of 20 Old 12-08-2009, 10:13 PM
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Maybe he needs a trim?

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post #15 of 20 Old 12-09-2009, 04:25 PM
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My mare is the same way... and she's barefoot. I've spent about 30 mins each day trying to get the ice out of her hooves.

I'm finding I have to put her in her stall for 15-30 mins prior to grooming. But even then, the ice is still packed in. I just chip away at the ice until it comes out. I might try the hairdryer soon though, because this ice issue sure does hurt the back. :S
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post #16 of 20 Old 12-09-2009, 06:49 PM
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Nice topic.
Thanks to the OP.
I am not a new to horse ownership, but have never had horses in this type of climate.
My horses are both bare right now.
We just had a few feet of snow but the bunk part is the daily highs are in the teens...nights in the negatives.
I have not tried the Pam, but have heard of it working well
So far on the days I was at the barn the ice and snow seemed to come out pretty easy with a hoof pick and then a swipe or so with the bristle end.

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post #17 of 20 Old 12-09-2009, 08:15 PM
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I've never had an issue with snow pack in bare hooves. I would question the trim. Also, does he have lots of room for turn out? I could see this happening maybe if a horse basically stands around the whole day just shifting from foot to foot to eat a bit here or there, but with good movement on a good trim without shoes, the snow should not be packing. In my barn I always see little hoofprint fossils of snow from the pack that falls out of their hooves.

Of course, there are times when Mother Nature puts a wrench in anything just to keep us on our toes. So if your snow is very moist and then it's very cold and turns it into ice that could be just a hiccough moment and won't come back.
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post #18 of 20 Old 12-09-2009, 08:33 PM
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Erm, I think it depends on the climate. The OP said she lives in Alberta, which isn't all that warmer then here in Manitoba. Our girls are trimmed as regular as it gets, Shay-la is touching them up every 3-4 weeks and we still endure snowballs. I have no idea why, something about the way they snow and ice packs onto each other, maybe if I understood more about weather and the consistancy of snow I would have an answer, but it's definately a huge issue up here in Canada for shod AND barefoot horses, properly trimmed.

Most people trim their hooves to be very concave, regardless of shod or barefoot, so I would attribute that to being a big part of the problem. Shay-la is trying some "natural trimming" on her old retired mare to see how it goes - it promotes leaving the frog to harden and callous as they do in the wild, and supporting the weight of the horse along with the hoof wall instead of JUST the hoof wall. I can imagine we'll see a reduction if not complete loss in the snowballing.

Anyway, all the tips were good - you HAVE to get the snow out. It can be tricky, but you can almost always find an opening near the heel to get the hoofpick under and get that first chunk out to start you on your way. PAM is okay, but it's so expensive for how little it lasts it's almost completely worthless. It kept my horses hooves snow free for maybe an hour and then right back to the same problem, so what was the point? I'd be more inclined to think shortening would work better.

And the snowballs are definately a bigger problem in this transitional period of warmish snowfall - once it hits the bitter -30 and -40 temps, it doesn't much happen anymore, the snow loses it's consistancy to stick together.

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post #19 of 20 Old 12-09-2009, 09:23 PM
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Well, it depends on the climate to the degree that there has to be snow, but that's about it. Not sure what you meant by that??? Perhaps something more about humidity, lack of humidity, changing temps??? Snow in Ontario tends to be more moist than snow in Alberta generally, but I still haven't seen snowpack issues here. We used to get it really bad on the bottom of our skiboots, but never on the horses.

But back to the solution, MM -- you are right. She does need to get the snow out. I'm not too sure about the warm water soak though. Water + freezing temps is not a good thing. Plus if you add water to an existing snow ball you can create an ice ball that is even harder to deal with. I like the hair dryer idea, just try to keep the heat away from the back of the pastern. Another thing that might work is to tap on the bottom of the snowpack with a hammer to loosen it. That would be my first try if a hoof pick isn't working.
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post #20 of 20 Old 12-09-2009, 11:25 PM
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You just have to chip it away as often as you can...unfortunately in some climates it's just a part of horse ownership...unpleasant for both horse and owner for sure, but necessary as well.

Shortening does work way better than Pam...

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