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post #11 of 26 Old 05-04-2010, 09:00 AM
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Here are some unedited pictures of my mare (yes, I edit my pictures to make her look blacker, haha)...



When I first got her: http://i42.tinypic.com/302753s.jpg
After a short time on BaK + blackening shampoo: http://i42.tinypic.com/339u4xt.jpg
After a longer time on BaK + blackening shampoo: http://i44.tinypic.com/zob28x.jpg
After BaK, blackening shampoo, and a short time on night turnout: http://i42.tinypic.com/2j0foxv.jpg
Now, after BaK, blackening shampoo, and night turnout: http://i43.tinypic.com/2re312p.jpg



That's really all there is to it. Diet is the most important thing. Make sure he's on a high-quality feed and is getting all the nutrients he needs. Black-as-Knight helps tremendously. Aside from helping color, it also improves the quality of the coat, skin, and hooves.

Night turnout is the second most important thing... and if you can't do that, get him a fly sheet that blocks UV rays and some spray-on sunscreen (I use Coat Saver sunblock).

The third most important thing is to make sure sweat doesn't dry on him. Hose him off meticulously after every ride, and if he gets sweaty in his stall or pasture take him out and hose him off. This is a good thing to do even if you aren't worried about fading because the salt makes them itchy and uncomfortable.

The fourth most important thing is blackening shampoo. I use Emerald Black and I love it. I will say, blackening shampoos don't seem to make brown horses black, but they do seem to improve the color on horses that are already black by making them jet black or blue-black.



The mane and tail are the tricky part. They're still orange on my mare. They don't fall out and grow back like the coat does, so once they're faded they will be for a LONG time. I use regular human hair dye on my mare's mane and tail, and it works great. Just don't overdo it or it can thin out the hair.
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post #12 of 26 Old 05-04-2010, 09:18 AM Thread Starter
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Than you CloudsMystique. Right now my trainer has him out grazing pretty much 24/7 and he's looking pretty good. I attempted to rinse or bathe him for the first time since I got him yesterday (I just got him last weekend) and well...I have opted to rinse him every day until he eventually gets used to it! He just won't stand for it and my trainer doesn't have a proper wash area so that doesn't help much. He will be moving to a stable at the end of the month and I am hoping that once I get him in a proper wash rack all will be good as he usually only has to deal with something once and then he's "so over it." lol.

After I did get him successfully rinsed however, I noticed something WONDERFUL in his coat. On his rear and sides he has DAPPLES!!! Sooo happy.
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Making sure he has an adequate mineral supplement is a huge thing, especially with dark colored horses; they can get copper deficiency, which also can cause a burnt orange coat. Aside from that I don't really have anything else to add to what's already here...you have alot to choose from; I think the key is to remember that a healthy coat comes from the inside out, not the opposite.

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post #14 of 26 Old 05-04-2010, 02:14 PM
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A true black horse is a black horse. I have a gelding who salt bleaches in his tack area. The rest of him stays black. He is outside 24/7. No special feed, no special shampoo, no fly sheet,etc.

Horses that have to be inside at night so they do not fade are not 'true' blacks.

I also have a 'black' mare who is truly a smokey black. But since AQHA doesn't recognize smokey - she is considered black.

On property there is an APHA mare and an Arab cross that bleach out. Also a saddlebred and a fresian cross who do not bleach out.
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A true black horse is a black horse. I have a gelding who salt bleaches in his tack area. The rest of him stays black. He is outside 24/7. No special feed, no special shampoo, no fly sheet,etc.

Horses that have to be inside at night so they do not fade are not 'true' blacks.

I also have a 'black' mare who is truly a smokey black. But since AQHA doesn't recognize smokey - she is considered black.

On property there is an APHA mare and an Arab cross that bleach out. Also a saddlebred and a fresian cross who do not bleach out.
Eh... what do you mean by "true" black? A black horse is a black horse. Some horses fade and some don't. Bays, chestnuts, grullos, duns, palominos, buckskins... almost any coat color can fade.
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Eh... what do you mean by "true" black? A black horse is a black horse. Some horses fade and some don't. Bays, chestnuts, grullos, duns, palominos, buckskins... almost any coat color can fade.
A true black doesn't fade into a brown or bay or grulla color. It stays black.

You said it yourself- almost any coat color can fade.
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A true black doesn't fade into a brown or bay or grulla color. It stays black.

You said it yourself- almost any coat color can fade.
But why does that make it a "true" black? It can't actually change into a brown or bay or grullo... a black horse will always be genetically black, and there's no genetic difference between a faded black horse and a non-faded black horse.

Sorry, your post just sounded a little condescending... as if black horses that fade are somehow inferior to black horses that don't.
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There are two blacks, non-fading and fading black, though geneticists have not found any difference in their DNA as they both are Ee or EE. There's still dispute as to whether or not it's due to management that a horse never fades, despite being in the sun. Generally a "non-fading" black has a blue-ish sheen to them and are sometime referred to as "jet black" or "blue black" horses. *shrugs* I honestly don't think it matters whether a horse is non-fading or not, if it's Ee or EE it's black.

But back to the topic, I use a shampoo and conditioner with sunscreen in them to keep Willie's tail black. I only started having more of a problem with it recently since he's now turned out 24/7.

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I have also heard that adding paprika to their feed as a supplement will help keep their coat black.
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post #20 of 26 Old 05-06-2010, 10:29 AM
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Sorry, your post just sounded a little condescending... as if black horses that fade are somehow inferior to black horses that don't.
Reread again. I have two horses that according to their registration papers with AQHA are black. One fades, one does not. Why would I feel my mare is inferior to my gelding?

I simply disagree with keeping a poor horse locked up due to the vanity of the owner.
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