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        06-21-2013, 03:33 PM
      #21
    Showing
    I'm wondering too if the skin issue is the reason why he's so sensitive to the water and/or possibly the soap that was in it (we all know how much soap stings when it's put on raw or sore skin).

    I think I'd have a vet out to look at him because that peeling is certainly not a young horse thing. I've been around thousands of horses in my life and I've never seen anything like that unless there was some sort of underlying cause that required treatment like allergies or fungus.

    It also appears that he's got some hair loss going on as well in the middle of his chest. That solidifies the idea in my mind that there's something more serious going on.

    I'd get the skin issue taken care of and worry about the bathing problems later...or, depending on the treatment, you might be able to deal with both at the same time.

    The way I train bathing is the way I train everything else, approach and retreat. If you are spraying from a hose, start at his feet with a very light/fine spray/mist. I don't tie them up for this in case they freak out. I keep them on a lead or, if they are prone to pull away, I'll keep them on a lead in a small pen. Then, when I start spraying them, they can move in a circle around me. They will eventually stop moving and when they do, I stop spraying them and give a good scratch in their favorite spots. Then I start all over. I've never had a horse take more than just a few minutes of this on each side before they would stand still for a bath all over.

    Also, something I've found out. If you wait and give them a bath after a good workout when they are hot and sweaty, they start to enjoy them more.
         
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        06-21-2013, 03:37 PM
      #22
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    That skin flaking is so not normal and nothing to do with age or growing
    While he has that going on I'd be reluctant to get water on him at all and concentrate on a really good brush out at least once a day and stay away from all sprays - some sensitive skinned horses react badly to fly sprays and providing him with a shelter to escape them might be best
    I never use anything other than a damp piece of toweling to start with when I get a horse used to water as you don't get the trickle effect and then build on that very gradually
    I also never tie a horse the first time I do new things with it - like washing or clipping. I either hold them myself or have someone that's really handy around horses hold them
         
        06-21-2013, 04:05 PM
      #23
    Foal
    Hummm. I have never seen that kind of skin shed thing before. I think If I were you, I would just use good ol' fashion "Elbow Grease" on him. Gently use a stiff brush and switch to a nice soft body brush. Baths really are unnessary at this point. Actually I never bath my horse, {although after a ride I do use temped water and a sponge to remove the gunky sweat lines}..... Just by brushing him daily you will get the natural oils from his skin and that should start to improve the flakes... Shampooing strips those oils and takes a few days to regain those that were washed out. THEN after you get his coat looking good, you can start to bath him, {if you feel its really nessesary} by starting with his legs with very low water pressure and as with everything else when working with young stock... go slow and with lots of "GOOD BOY"s!!!.
         
        06-21-2013, 05:02 PM
      #24
    Showing
    If your hose has a sprayer, remove it and have the water dribble out of the hose. Show it to him, hold it like a fountain and touch his lips with it. Then move to a front hoof then knee, just dribbling the water. A horse's skin is very sensitive so the force of the water from the hose may be too much to tolerate.
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        06-23-2013, 11:12 PM
      #25
    Yearling
    I would definitely check with the vet about that skin peeling/residue, it certainly isn't normal. But I did just tackle the same bathing problem with two horses today who were sweated up but haven't been bathed regularly, if ever, so were new to the whole idea. Not to mention the yard I had them in was particularly 'scary' and a bit clustered with trees. Approach and retreat is definitely the best method. Within five minutes I had each of them standing for thirty seconds or more at a time by simply starting out slow. Introducing the water to their lips, then a bit on the hoof, up the legs. If they walked away I'd keep it on them, once they stopped I'd immediately take it off. As they figured it out they would start to stand still, and I'd take the water off them, then put it back on. I had the sprayer off the hose, and I had the horse on a lead rope. Their was enough space for them to make the decision to move around, but not enough for them to run away. Take it slow, take the time. If there aren't any other issues, this method should work.
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        06-28-2013, 04:24 PM
      #26
    Foal
    Just a quick follow up here, Thanks all for your help its really helped improve Jerrys skin. Its not pealing like it was before, now its just little bits of dandruff all over and he's had that for a long time so my sisters told me as she had him before me. As for the bathing, when my sister came out to help me, he did pretty good with that bath minus the fact the water was ice cold but that's all we can get through the hose so he's going to have to suck it up because I'm sure on a really hot day, he'll really like it. I am though concerned that now he's really scratching on his chest area where it pealed and on his shoulder area and I'm not too sure why? Everytime I bring him into the barn he instantly has his back foot up and he's scratching it like crazy. I'm going to make a new thread for that so if you have any ideas please take a look and if you have any suggestions, that would be great.
         
        06-28-2013, 05:00 PM
      #27
    Weanling
    He may have allergies, either to the bugs or flyspray. They could be noseeums, many horses are allergic to those, including one at our barn. He had simular symptoms and would scratch himself raw and all of his hair would fall out. Now he has an injection that he gets for his allergies and he's better. Ask your vet.
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        07-01-2013, 04:20 PM
      #28
    Foal
    Your horse may be extra sensitive because of his skin peeling. Looks like he has had a severe reaction. Has he been on any medications lately that are new, or been given any antibiotics? I think you need to have a vet check him out and do some bloodwork just as a precaution.

    Have you tried using a soft, dry cloth to touch his face, legs, etc., with? Each time he lets you touch him, praise him and reward him, maybe with a piece of apple or a treat in his feed bucket. I always let my horse smell everything before I touch her with it, and she seems to do well knowing the smell isn't going to hurt her. She is so funny with smelling stuff, it only takes her a second to know if she likes another horse by their smell - lol.!
         
        07-01-2013, 06:28 PM
      #29
    Showing
    That's being respectful of your horse. I now wouldn't think of doing anything with the horses without asking first. Today I entered the barn to dribble chain saw oil into the tail of each. One horse had to really check it out altho I suspect he was checking to see if it was edible. The other bumped it with his nose. Both stood quietly for me.
         

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