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    08-09-2012, 07:26 PM
  #21
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I know someone who did a study on horses in a wild herd out west. He studied how often the horses rolled in the dirt. He found that light colored horses rolled MUCH more often than darker colored horses. His theory is that it is an effort to disguise themselves and to make then blend in more. Maybe the predators wouldn't see them as easily.

The horse in my avatar had a deep seated desire to be a chestnut. He rolled constantly in our red clay often giving him an interesting peach coloring.

Nothing you can do but wash wash wash.


This whole argument about semantics reminds me of the chestnut vs sorrel debate. Just leave it as a difference between national cultures, folks. There doesn't really have to be a winner here. As long as the actual DNA test is acknowledged, who care what they call it?

I still, and always will, call a "kimblewick" a kimberwicke.
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    08-09-2012, 07:55 PM
  #22
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Originally Posted by NdAppy    
Thelma can you please post some head shots of you mare?

And can you tell us how its been "proven" that she will produce whatever she is bred to and what tests have actually been done on her?

DA - double dilutes have pink skin all over I believe.
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Originally Posted by NdAppy    
*shrugs* Not sure why you are surprised you are getting questioned about the color of your mare that is physically impossible as there are no albinos in horses. But do go right ahead and bury your head in the sand and refuse to learn anything. Good luck to you with that.
This was started as a perfectly friendly thread asking how to keep a white horse, whatever its genetic disposition, white. If there's a contest to see how quickly we can turn others off to participating here, consider it over.

The OP made it clear that she's from Iceland and was relaying what she was told by her vet, so a simple "It may be called something different in my country because there are no albino horses in the strict sense" would have sufficed.

For what it's worth, National Geographic appears to agree with the OP and the country of Iceland that there is a type of horse referred to as Albino there, 1344141. Icelandic albino horse, close-up of eye - NG Stock Photography.

Please resist the urge to take a thread in an unnecessarily adversarial direction again.
     
    08-10-2012, 09:24 AM
  #23
Foal
Thanks Allison Finch for your help! :) This sounds very true, she is the only white colored horse in the stable so she must feel like she has to blend in with the others. I've also heard that horses roll to keep flies away in the summer but in Iceland there hasn't been a lot of flies this summer, but still, she rolls every day, so often that it doesn't matter if I groom her in between hahah :)

About this off topic thing: I guess what I call Albino is what you in USA call cremello. That's all right and we don't have to fight about that. Still she does not give any color genes to her offspring if she would have because her color is very rare and the genes are not strong enough to go against all other Icelandic horse colors. I talked to my vet and she told me this. The test that was done on her when she was young was to find out about her color, and how strong her genes were to give them to a offspring. The result was that there is nothing in her genes that can go against all other colors and therefor she is an albino, a horse that has pink skin, white coat and cannot give it away to a offspring.
Hope we can keep this topic going :)
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    08-10-2012, 11:18 AM
  #24
Weanling
I have some experience washing Cremellos. I have always used Quic Silver shampoo. It is a bluing agent, much like the bluing stuff (that dark dark purpely blue stuff) you use after you bleach your hair. Same stuff. This will take out a LOT of discolor in your white horse, and make them silvery white. Like "take this horse out of the sun its so bright" white. It works on coats, manes and tails.

Quic Silver is expensive, but it really does work on those annoying poo stains. My instructor had a Cremello American Saddlebred that loves to never be white. Many poo and pee stains on her rump and sides, like she HAS to lay in her pee. Yuck. I know a lot of people at my barn pass around a bottle of Quic Silver to get socks and stockings clean and white on their chestnuts and bays. I have seen a couple palomino's too that it's worked on manes and tails.

Now, getting the deep yellow out of tails? Gojo hand cleaner is popular to do that with. I have no idea what is in it, but I know a lot of people with greys, cremellos, and paints who use it to take the discolor out of tails. You can research it across a lot of forums and youtube to see people use it. I have used Gojo once, and I cannot for the life of me remember if I liked how it turned out or not. Gojo is a hand cleaner used by automotive mechanics to take grease stains off of their hands.
     
    08-10-2012, 12:30 PM
  #25
Foal
Thanks! :) many of you say "bleach the hair". What is that? What does it mean to bleach the hair. Never heard that before hahah, english is not my mothertounge :)
     
    08-10-2012, 12:32 PM
  #26
Green Broke
Bleaching would be using something to take the color (or stain) out of the hair. Like when people change their hair color from dark to blonde or white .. they are "bleaching" it.
     
    08-10-2012, 05:49 PM
  #27
Weanling
Bleaching is using an agent which removes colour from materials. It works on hair, removing all colour (leaving white hair very bright), but also works on clothing, so make sure you don't spill any on your clothes as they will discolour too!
     
    08-10-2012, 06:24 PM
  #28
Trained
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Originally Posted by Thelma    

About this off topic thing: I guess what I call Albino is what you in USA call cremello. That's all right and we don't have to fight about that. Still she does not give any color genes to her offspring if she would have because her color is very rare and the genes are not strong enough to go against all other Icelandic horse colors. I talked to my vet and she told me this. The test that was done on her when she was young was to find out about her color, and how strong her genes were to give them to a offspring. The result was that there is nothing in her genes that can go against all other colors and therefor she is an albino, a horse that has pink skin, white coat and cannot give it away to a offspring.
Hope we can keep this topic going :)
I've never heard of such a test. Do they only do it in Iceland?

Because if she is, in fact, a cremello in our terms, she does have genes to pass on. Each parent has 2 copies of a gene, with one being passed from each parent to the offspring. If she's a cremello, she will always pass on the Cream gene. She will also only pass on the red gene, which is recessive to black.

But if such a test exists, it would be highly interesting to me and some others and I'd love to look more into it.
     
    08-10-2012, 06:43 PM
  #29
Foal
I don't care whether the horse is true albino or not....she is stunning and is a real flashy girl :P
I don't know how to keep the coat clean, though.
My mare NASDAQ is brown/white Paint coat....but somehow she never rolls in muddy or yucky spots *sigh of relief*, she's surprisingly clean. I never really find grass stains, but when I find a real dirty spot on her white, I just take a rubber curry comb and scrub the hell out of it. That usually gets most of the grime out of the coat.
I never use whitener or anything, though. I love her, filthy or not. Plus she's a 3 year old unbroken filly sooooo I don't show her xD
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    08-10-2012, 07:07 PM
  #30
Foal
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I haven't read anyone's responses but I used to have a sorrel and white paint mare. She was definitely 99% white. To keep her white I found some whitening shampoo which is really easily found at just about any tack shop...the color of the shampoo is usually purple and works really well - even on yellow tails. I chose vanilla for my aroma of choice Also, Exhibitor Laboratories® Quic Silver Whitening Shampoo | Dover Saddlery

They all work really well. For shows, they make show paint. Works just like spray paint. I personally never used it but I found spot remover and spot removing wipes. Can't remember where - Google and they worked PHENOMENALLY. Keeping them glossy too, so like show sheen and stuff like that, helps keep them clean. It's like waxing your car.

But that's all really if you want to keep them show clean. I let her get dirty if she had no reason to be clean.
     

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