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post #11 of 23 Old 03-09-2010, 09:01 PM
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Although I believe this is most likely a behavioral issue as other members have stated, I'd like to add my two cents. Many TB's are thin skinned and ticklish, making them very sensitive horses. Maybe you are grooming too lightly and tickling him?

One of my geldings went through a phase awhile back where he didn't like being groomed--I later realized it was the stiff dandy brush I was using. When I switched back to the softer brush, he would let me groom him without protest. This gelding could just be sensitive to grooming techniques and tools if manners aren't the issue.
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post #12 of 23 Old 03-10-2010, 05:10 AM
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im really sorry if i repeat anything that has already been said but im in a rush and dont have time to read all replies.

being that the horse is a thoroughbred it may be an issue of sensitivity. i have spent a lot of time working with tb's and have one of my own and they can be very sensitive. they are thin skinned horses and can often object to grooming. while it may be behavioural i would first look at this as an issue. i have found using a very soft brush and being particularly gentle can make a difference. my tb mare is particularly sweet but gets very agitated during grooming. i found a brush made out of goats hair which is incredibly soft and she enjoys this much more.

im not ruling out behaviour issues but i would also look at this as well. ive groomed many tb's in my time as i used to work as a strapper and at least 95% of the tbs i have groomed have been sensitive to grooming. just a thought :)

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my horse does this its just really bad manners she chews the door tries to bite and kick and paws the ground she is not sensitive as i use mainly towels to clean her so there is no drama with the brush. i find that if i tie her up outside quite short with maybe some hay it stops her biting. when she paws every time she raises a front leg i slap her really hard on the knee and say no. the hin legs are a bit more dangerous however everytime she raises it i slap hard and the belly and place my hand firmly onto her leg untill she lowers it it adds ALOT of extra time to your grooming regime but it does start to work eventually once they realise there getting groomed and thats final no0 matter how much they argue about it!
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post #14 of 23 Old 04-12-2010, 08:54 PM
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my horse does the same thing!!! but the old owner said he has done it since he was very little....in one spot i brush him I think he is ticklish and does it but if the pawing doesn't hurt anything and if hes not trying to kick someone/something...then I wouldn't worry about it too much.
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post #15 of 23 Old 04-12-2010, 10:00 PM
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Sunny paws when she's being groomed, especially when cross-tied. What I do, which has worked wonders, is as soon as I see her lift a front leg I push all of my weight into her shoulder and knock her off balance so she has to put it down. Immediately after I push, and I mean immediately, I go straight back to what I was doing. She has deffinately cut down on it, just about stopped all together.
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post #16 of 23 Old 04-13-2010, 02:55 AM
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I agree. My younger horse paws sometimes because she is impatient. Its kind of a mini temper tantrum. I either ignore it & keep doing what I'm doing. If it gets too bad I give her a quick smack, say no & then go back to what I'm doing. The shifting their weight is a good idea too. I didn't think of that until now. I'll have to try that next time.

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post #17 of 23 Old 04-13-2010, 07:39 AM
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J can somtimes get impatient and lifts his leg and paws or if its his back leg he will lift it up and move around. my solution to it is to talk to him and if he picks the leg ug I take hold of it and carry on working if he puts it down I continue for a litttle then stop when he stays standing still and give him a pat tell him he is good.

occasionally he does dance around like an idiot and when i know its more naughtiness rather than being sick of me pulling mud off him he gets a bit of a swat and told to stand still. seems to be working so far
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post #18 of 23 Old 04-13-2010, 08:46 AM
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Although I believe this is most likely a behavioral issue as other members have stated, I'd like to add my two cents. Many TB's are thin skinned and ticklish, making them very sensitive horses. Maybe you are grooming too lightly and tickling him?

One of my geldings went through a phase awhile back where he didn't like being groomed--I later realized it was the stiff dandy brush I was using. When I switched back to the softer brush, he would let me groom him without protest. This gelding could just be sensitive to grooming techniques and tools if manners aren't the issue.
Addressing the problem on two fronts is the best idea, I think. First you get it across to him that no matter what, he MUST be a gentleman. Then you offer him your own cooperation in the form of a softer brush, possibly a gentler approach in general. We have a horse in our barn now that gets a goat's-hair brush. (With a TB, I think it's likely the grooming is too rough for him rather than too light, but try different things to see how he responds.)
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post #19 of 23 Old 04-20-2010, 04:05 PM
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As far as pawing, my horse does the same thing...ive asked 3 different vets about it and they all says its just ger being impatient...and ive tried everything you guys have mentioned...from ignoring it, to tying somthing to it pops her everytime she does it..so using a crop and just popping her with it when she does it..everything..nothing worked...she only does it when shes tied up for grooming, or a bath, or etc and i walk away..so i know its just an attention thing but than again, if shes standing there to long (as she thinks) she'll start doing it as well...so theres her being impatient...but ive never had a problem with her kicking what so ever...sound like the horse needs more ground work.

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post #20 of 23 Old 04-20-2010, 04:11 PM
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Another thing to maybe consider..again, not sure so correct me if im wrong...is look at the protein in the grain your giving and the amount of work the horse is under-going...a farrier once i know once had a client ask him about the pawing she her horse was on a 14% and wasnt doing to much but maybe a trail ride once a week or so and the horse was just so ancy..so she gradually cut her horse down to a 10% and it eliminated the problem...just something to think about.

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