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    08-05-2011, 01:56 AM
  #1
Trained
Kind of frustrated with the bathing thing

So, as many of you know now, Aires was basically a stall pony for 18 months (from the time he was 6 months until I bought him at 2-years-old) and was exposed to nothing. This included hoses and water (except rain, which doesn't count). The first time we tried to hose him down, it was a complete rodeo. After the BO started training him, he'd get hosed down every time after his workout. He didn't really like it and would fidget and try to get away, or spook at the water, because OMG, it might eat him!

Fast forward to today. BO has been working with him intermittently, at best (total of five or six times in the past two months), and I haven't really seen a need to hose him off since he doesn't get extremely dirty and even when he rolls, it brushes right off. So today, the trainer at the stable saddled Aires up and rode him. Got him trotting and everything (said he has one of the smoothest trots she's EVER ridden ). Afterward, my friend decided to try to rinse off Aires because he sweat quite a bit (he's usually not a big sweater, but it was hot today). I was at work, so she was kind enough to take over while I couldn't be there. Anyway, she asked the BO to help her rinse off Aires because she is a little thing (5'3" and about 140lbs) and Aires is a big thing (15.2hh and probably in the neighborhood of 1200lbs now), and she can't hold him and manage the hose with the way he usually is (spins away from the water, etc).

So here she is holding the lead rope and ready for a rodeo. The BO turns the hose on and starts hosing down my horse. Does my horse fidget? No. Does my horse try to run away from the water that he is sure is going to eat him? Nope. Does he even blink an eye? NOPE! My friend said he was standing so calmly that she felt like she might as well not even be holding the lead rope. To top it off, the BO offered Aires not one, but THREE drinks from the hose and he accepted them, playing in the water the whole time! She said it was actually kind of hilarious, because the BO (who is a big old cowboy-type) was all "Oh, I'm sorry, baby. Did you want a drink?" and would offer Aires the hose.

So, what's the difference? Why is he a complete monster with us, yet stands perfectly for the BO? Mind you, he normally has impeccable ground manners (he even is extra careful around me right now because I'm in a walking cast) and is very respectful of me. I am not afraid of him and do not "expect" him to be a monster every time I try to rinse him off. I am not forceful with turning the hose on him and use the exact same approach the BO does (start spraying his hooves, then work my way up his legs, using my thumb to create a spray, rather than using a nozzle).

Keep in mind that, except for the BO, Aires does not like men...at all. I will admit that Aires and the BO do have a special bond, and Aires is the BO's favorite horse out of all the foals he's rescued over the years, but Aires and I have a special bond, too.

Sorry, this turned into more of a vent/rant than it did a question. Lol My friend and I are maybe going to try tomorrow to give Aires a full bath (with scary soap and everything!) if the trainer gets done riding him early enough tomorrow, so I'll let you know how it went...if it went.
     
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    08-05-2011, 02:00 AM
  #2
Yearling
Because your his momma, my paint horse does this. He is not scared of anything with my trainer, but he if is with me and he doesnt want to do it, he acts like he is going to die, and acts like a baby.
     
    08-05-2011, 02:08 AM
  #3
Trained
He's usually not like that with anything with me, though. Lol If anything, he's more bold when he's with me (little mister "Mom, I want to play with the plastic trashcans I've never seen in my life" and "Oh, look at the pokey things [aka-cacti] on the cool mailbox...can I touch them? PLEASE?!").

After I started working with him, there were only three things he remained afraid of...the hose/water, the fly spray bottle, and men. We still haven't worked out the men thing, and I don't know if we ever will. He has even reared up when our farrier tried to go into his stall when I wasn't there (my friend was catching him and bringing him out because I was running late and the farrier went to help).

And that's the other thing...even if he acts afraid of it or like he's going to die, I don't stop. I still make him let me do it. I've had a horse that the owners let get away with stuff just because he didn't want to do it and I absolutely refuse to let Aires get like that. It was an absolute nightmare retraining a 6yo gelding from the ground up because he figured out that if he acted like he was going to spook, he got out of whatever he didn't want to do.

Of course, it may be because he's two and hasn't quite entirely worked out what will kill him and what won't, but now he's decided that the water/hose won't actually kill him and that it feels nice. Lol
     
    08-05-2011, 08:09 AM
  #4
Weanling
Mystic doesnt like to get wet, hate for her tail to be washed, but the last time I bathed her she stood so perfectly! Until time to rinse out her tail....then she did a perfect walking lunge with the water hose! Lol! It was so much better than the last time though, last time she kept flipping her bum away from it trying to sq up with me. So next time Im going to work with her on standing still for it. She is still a baby, 1 1/2, but I was thrilled she was calmly walking instead of flipping her bum! Good luck with his bath today!
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    08-06-2011, 07:45 PM
  #5
Weanling
It is probably just because the BO spends more training time with him. It's like that with my mare. Even though my mom rides her now, I was the one who trained her from the start, and I am the one who continues to train her, groom her, work with her, and play with her all the time. Even though she has a great bond with my mom too, I think in her mind that she regards me as her leader. When I ride her alone, she is just fine with being away from my mom, who usually accompanies us with her bike, but when my mom rides her alone, if something scary comes along she will look to me.

Is there a reason why the BO is the one doing the riding? Maybe some more time just being worked by you would be the answer to your issues.
     
    08-06-2011, 07:57 PM
  #6
Yearling
Maybe he's figured out that getting a cold rinse after being hot and sweaty feels really good and it had nothing to do with who is holding the hose.

(But you're riding your two-year-old draft cross? Eep!)
     
    08-06-2011, 09:10 PM
  #7
Trained
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Originally Posted by ScharmLily    
It is probably just because the BO spends more training time with him. It's like that with my mare. Even though my mom rides her now, I was the one who trained her from the start, and I am the one who continues to train her, groom her, work with her, and play with her all the time. Even though she has a great bond with my mom too, I think in her mind that she regards me as her leader. When I ride her alone, she is just fine with being away from my mom, who usually accompanies us with her bike, but when my mom rides her alone, if something scary comes along she will look to me.

Is there a reason why the BO is the one doing the riding? Maybe some more time just being worked by you would be the answer to your issues.
The BO barely spends any time working Aires, to be honest. He has had seven sessions in the round pen with Aires in the last two months (with sometimes two sessions in a week). I, on the other hand, work with Aires every day. Generally speaking, we lunge 3-4 times a week and even when we don't lunge, we go for a trail walk or at least get saddled up.

As for why the BO is doing the riding...technically, he's not. Lol He did the getting Aires saddled work, but the trainer at the barn is the one who has ridden him (three times now). I haven't ridden him yet because I can't. I severely sprained my ankle when a fellow boarder's (literally) insane mare bucked me off and I have to wear a walking cast. Trust me...as soon as this thing is off, I will be up on my horse. I can still lunge him, though, so we do that, as I said, 3-4 times a week.

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Originally Posted by IslandWave    
(But you're riding your two-year-old draft cross? Eep!)
He has three rides on him so far. We're not doing anything strenuous or heavy. When we do start riding for "serious," it'll just be flatwork (20-30 minutes of riding, tops, and mostly walk/trot at that) and an occasional trail ride on a nice, flat trail. The BO (who has been training ranch horses for a good 20 years) said that as long as we're not going to try going up Granite Mountain (local rocky, hilly trail), then riding him is fine. No one else on here has had a problem with it...at least not that they've said. *shrug*

Anyway, I gave Aires a rinse down after his ride yesterday (didn't have time for a bath) and he was wonderful. I was able to hand him myself (usually it takes one to hold him and one to work the hose) and he drank from the hose for me. Yay!
     
    08-06-2011, 09:40 PM
  #8
Showing
LOL, some horses just have a lightbulb moment and sometimes it comes when they have a day or a few days off. Something that you wrestled with the last time you handled/rode them will suddenly be old hat to them. I guess they just get to thinking about things and come to some kind of conclusion . Happens to me all the time.
     

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