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post #21 of 46 Old 01-04-2011, 02:49 PM Thread Starter
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I don't get why (even if you have an arab or another breed that is known for long thick manes) why it's frowned upon! Like If it's really tight it looks just as neat and nice as a rosettes! I really don't understand the pickiness!

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Because there are certain standards in showing at upper levels. If you don't like the standards and requirements, then don't show those particular disciplines at the higher levels.

What you do at a local, podunk show doesn't matter. When you've reached Regional or National levels, it does.

It's not all about what YOU want or think is 'pretty'.

You couldn't join a sports team and decide you didn't want to wear their uniform and then wear something else; you'd have to conform or you wouldn't be able to stay on the team.

It works that way for all types of things, and horse showing is one of them.

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I wasn't speaking of upper levels. When you go to the Regional or National levels and are practically in the Grand Prix (or in it), you will most likely have a Warmblood/Throroughbred/etc and not have that particular problem, and since it's so BIG and important, obviously one knows better then to go playing around with the regulations.

I read on some forums of people complaining about running braids at their local fair shows. (but still pretty advanced (3ishft)). They were saying how it's much easier to do a running braid and don't find it acceptable for the show ring, and it's more an around the barn thing. THAT'S what I don't understand. How for your local hunter, jumper ring the running braid is a big todoo for some indvidual people. However if veery tight and well done it's just as acceptable looking as any other braid.

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Its because they have a boot stuck up their butt and don't like anything new because they can't do it. lol. Some people in the upper levels are just like that though. Not saying on here or anything, just saying a lot of shows I have been to people turn their nose up at you because you don't have a $5000 dollar saddle or a 85k horse. That's just how it is sometimes.
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I understand wanting to look traditional.
I was just confused, I though you meant it wasn't accepted at all.

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Its because they have a boot stuck up their butt and don't like anything new because they can't do it. lol. Some people in the upper levels are just like that though. Not saying on here or anything, just saying a lot of shows I have been to people turn their nose up at you because you don't have a $5000 dollar saddle or a 85k horse. That's just how it is sometimes.
So the rest of the baseball team that wants you to also wear the green t-shirt so you match the team, instead of your pink t-shirt are stuck up snobs too?

I do not have a $5000 saddle (or horse for all that matters) but my horse was always properly turned out. Period.

It has nothing to do with not being able to do what you do. It is all about having respect for the sport you are participating in and having respect for the judge that is judging it.
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It has nothing to do with not being able to do what you do. It is all about having respect for the sport you are participating in and having respect for the judge that is judging it.
Exactly.

If you want to snub your nose at tradition and basically tell the judges and the rest of the participants that you have no respect for the sport or the other competitors, then stay at the lower levels and do your fun shows.

If you can't understand that there are standards that must be upheld, then don't waste your, the judge's, or the other competitors' time. You're not being a rebel or the underdog, you're being unreasonable at expecting them to change for you.

I've found that those who scream the loudest about snobs, unfairness, or discrimination are those who can't be bothered to actually turn out themselves and their horses in the required, traditional way.

If you ever have hopes of competing at actual rated levels, you need to observe the standards and traditions no matter where in the spectrum of showing you happen to be at the moment.

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wOoAH, ok guys I didn't want this to turn into a big discussion. Obviously tradition is nice and should be kept. (I am personally big with traditions and love them: family traditions, cultural, etc) but a little change isn't bad either.

Fine so at rated levels a running braid is a nono, so what do you do with your arabians long mane then? (I would really like one in the future and there is no way I am cutting it short). It wouldn't be to the horses knee either though.
That's what I wanted to know from the start and then people said a running braid was ok, so... what do you do? I don't think I will get to rated levels, I would like to (to the lower ones) one day, but that won't be for a very long time since I am still young and inexperienced.

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To Alwaydbehind: I get your point and everything, really.
But a little tight braid on a horse sticks out a lot less then a baseball player wearing a flashy pink shirt instead of a green one.

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So what about the breeds that DO have long manes? Are they not to have long manes and participate at high levels because they'll stand out? I guess I don't see anything wrong with the running braids if they're neat and tight. they have the same affect as the traditional braids do. I guess it just bugs me that perception is to be "turned out" you have to do something like that...idk...but i'm a driver so what do i know
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