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    03-10-2012, 08:07 PM
The magic stallion stick

Herewith a tip I have found to groom my baby stallion even when he disagrees: To avoid being smashed on the wall, I groom him with a wooden stick that I put into 2 fleece socks to avoid hurting Treasure. With one hand I hold the curry comb, hoof pick etc..., with the other one I hold the puppet stick. He is tied with a hay net but still can block me so the puppet stick parallel to the ground keeps us both safe. With time he does improve and accepts me better, so the stick is more and more there in case. You probably can add a squicking soft toy at the end...
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    03-11-2012, 04:58 AM
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This is nothing new at all.
I would say that by the end of a week he should be fine. If he is not then you are not doing things correctly.
I would also not have him eating whilst I am grooming, I want them to concentrate on me.

I would also suggest that you have him gelded.
    03-11-2012, 05:01 AM
To me I think it can be just as dangerous as trying to groom him by yourself. There are heaps of people that do it yes, just please be careful
    03-11-2012, 06:37 AM
The Magic stallion stick

I have been grooming him on my own since January and I have been using the puppet stick for a month. No accident. Antoine is mild tempered so when he gets nervy there is a cause: hormones, something that scares him, eg a gate opened in the wrong direction, something not at its usual place, that he knows, a car or a lorry, or a human mistake vs evil intention, unfit equipment, people trying to show off without even watching him or turning up in an aggressive mood: he feels it and takes action. Professionals are a necessary help but then when needed and not anybody. He has been abused by so called professionals who made him shy and let him waddling in his pooh. At that time I could groom him loose in his stable, which I will never be able to do again. The next one had three negligence related accidents in a month. A third one just helped me teach him to accept having his feet done and let people work on it for several minutes. I can now pick his 2 forefeet in a go, while before I had only one, and he seems increasingly willing to give his hind feet. I do not know the man, from a human point of vue I have no clue who he is but he said he could and did the job. Professional means a lot of things. I need their help but not everywhere and all the time. I will try and post a magic stick thread every next months to tell whether we do improve and it works, and how we did, or to say fail and who helped, and how.
    03-12-2012, 11:18 AM
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I'm sorry, but a horse that is that "nervy" is not paying attention to you at all. Also, the hay net is not teaching him to focus on what a handler is doing, but is making him think eating is his first priority and the grooming is just to be put up with.

And can't imagine why you are putting yourself in position where horse can crush you anyway?

As horse gets older, these types of problems will only get worse.
    03-12-2012, 11:21 AM
Your horse needs training - not puppets. BTW, a "baby stallion" is a colt.
    03-12-2012, 12:28 PM
Find someone to help you train the colt. This is not training it is bribery. I can groom pick up feet tie clean sheaths and everything you would need a horse to do by the time a colt is about 2 months old. If you are working the horse correctly you should have no problem going in and brushing the horse after several months even if the horse was wild to be begine with.

Also if you can not get close enough by this point to even brush the colt you need to be calling him gelding.
    03-12-2012, 12:32 PM
I agree with Iride, this colt needs training. Babying him will only do a disservice and create opportunity in his mind for further incidents and upping the ante. If mine was putting me in a wall while being groomed, I can assure you I'd use that stick but it sure as heck wouldn't be to groom him with.
    03-12-2012, 01:07 PM
At that time I could groom him loose in his stable, which I will never be able to do again.
With the horse being that young, I have no doubt you'll be able to groom him safely again. You need to find a real professional to help you though. It sounds like you need quite a bit of help. It seems your colt needs to learn respect and trust. It's good that you sought professional help. I'm sorry that it turned out so negatively for you; however, I would say keep looking for a professional trainer. Before choosing another trainer though, I would ask for references. Past and current clients that you can talk too. Also make sure it is someone who is willing to work with you as well. Good luck!!! And please be-careful!

Oh, and I ditto having him gelded!
    03-12-2012, 05:09 PM
Why is he being kept a stallion? Geld him. If he's not baby makin, or has not done anything to be breeding, then geld him. Accidents happen with stallions that never breed or shouldn't breed far more times than with a gelding.

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