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    10-08-2007, 10:54 AM
  #11
Trained
I was reading a lot online before I actually got Vega a tail bag. The one that I have, that seperates the hair into 3 sections is supposed to work the best because the hair can grow and not get all tangled up. I have seen other horses tails that have been braided and put into a one sleeve tail bag,and their tail is just a big ball of knots. I also read you're supposed to re-do it like every week and condition as well.

I wish I had a pic of Vega's tail. It's kind of the typical appy tail, but her's is a little longer, because I have put Santa Fe conditioner in it, and it works really well.

It could just be my luck of having her tail bag fall out as many times as it did, but i'm sure there's a way to do it without doing so much work.
     
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    10-08-2007, 07:34 PM
  #12
Yearling
Jazzyrider, The tail wrap, pictured in my above post is very easy to do, and pretty low maintanance. It can stay up for two weeks, and then is supposed to be taken out, brushed out, conditioned, and redone. I have left if for much longer with no ill effects. It is really pretty simple: you braid the tail below the bone, fold the braid through itself 1-3 times depending on length, and then wrap it up to protect the hairs.

I have found this method to work really well. The first winter that I did it, my horse's tail when from fetlock length to dragging on the ground.
It works because the braid strands are protected and don't get tangled and snap off. Also, the tail being wrapped, or put into a tail bag keep them from getting stepped on or ripped of on various objects. It is also nice, because you don't have to constantly brush out the tangles in the tail - it stays clean and tidy. When you unwrap it every couple of weeks, the hair is soft, smooth, and tangle free just like when you put it in.

Appy lover, is the Santa Fe conditioner a spray in? I just use the Show Sheen polish & conditioner spray, but would be interested in hearing about others. :)
     
    10-08-2007, 08:03 PM
  #13
Trained
Yes AKPaintLover, the santa fe conditioner is a spray. It can be used for mane, tail and body. It leaves all the hair very silky and soft. I don't really use it on her body as it makes it very soft, to a point where I feel a saddle pad could just slip, but i've never actually used it and then put a saddle on, so I wouldnt know. But it also helps a lot in not attracting dirt and dust.
     
    01-24-2008, 10:56 AM
  #14
Trained
I have actually gotten sick and tired of the tail bag, coming loose and getting all muddy and all. So I ordered some vet wrap and plan on doing up her tail today. Thank you so much for everything!!
     
    01-24-2008, 06:17 PM
  #15
Yearling
No problem :)

You will love keeping it wrapped up...it comes out silky smooth just as you put it in there. My boy's tail wrap finally came loose after being in for about a month, and when I re-did it, I was pleasantly surprised to see his tail back at about fetlock length after being half way up his cannons for most of the summer (from leaving it down during reining practice). I swear by it :)

Remember if you don't have a winter season without bugs, to just add some strands of bailing twine as a "tail".

I hope it works for you. Let me know if you have proplems putting it up. It should take between 1/2-1 roll of the wrap to wrap it up well depending on the length and thickness of tail.
     
    01-25-2008, 09:55 AM
  #16
Trained
Well I just one one roll of vet wrap, but I could easily get more. I was just curious as to how you actually put it up. My appy kinda has the typical tail, but it is sorta long (just a little bit past her hock) But its not thick at all. Thanks so much Paintlover
     
    01-25-2008, 03:54 PM
  #17
Yearling
1. Wash and condition (or at least brush out really well and spray in favorite detangler). You could also spray in the MTG that everyone raves about (I haven't tried it yet, but will order some this spring).

2. Separate into three strands and put tail in simple braid starting below tail bone.

3. Put small rubber band at end of braid to secure it. The braid should be quick and loose.

4. Here is the tricky to explain part....Go back up to where you started the braid (below the tail bone), and separate out a space between 2 of the strands that started the braid.

5. Pull the end of the braid with the rubber band up and feed it through the space you made at the top of the tail. Pull the end back down around itself and through the space again (if needed because of the lenght of the tail).

6. You should end up with a bun looking thing (about 6-8 inches long). Hold the bun with one hand so it does not unravel. Take the vet wrap in your other hand...to anchor the vet wrap, take the tail end of the wrap through the same space that you brought the tail end through. Then begin wrappng around the bun and around the vet wrap anchor. Wrap snugly, and layer enough that the tail will not break through. The vetwrap should stick to itself, so when you have it wrapped up to your satisfaction, just rip it, and smooth down the end.

7. To add a tail, cut 4 or 5 strands of bailing twine to your desired length. Secure the strands by pushing one end through the space at the top of the wrap (that you put the vet wrap and braid end through), then tie the strand to itself.

Let me know if I need to be more clear...some of this is a bit hard to explain in words :)
     
    01-25-2008, 04:29 PM
  #18
Trained
I think I definitely understand it. Whether I'll be able to remember everything when I go do it is a totally different story. But I'll see how it goes.

I just bought MTG used it once and it seemed to have worked a little bit. Her hair wasn't knotty at all and it looked really nice. I'm going to use it again with the tail wrap and hope all goes according to plan that in a month or so, she'll have a longer, fuller tail.
     
    01-28-2008, 11:29 AM
  #19
Trained
Well I put on the vet wrap on saturday. It looks pretty cool actually, and I think I put it on good enough. I ordered a whole bunch more vet wrap. How often do you change the vet wrap, or do you only change it when its coming undone. I plan to use this in the winter (when there are no flies, and either have nothing on it, or use a tail bag in the spring/summer.
     
    01-28-2008, 12:53 PM
  #20
Yearling
I only change it in the winter when it is coming undone purely for my own convenience. That happens every month or so. I have been told though that is should be washed, conditioned, and changed at least every two weeks....I have not seen a difference leaving it in longer (having done it for the shorter time periods also).

I am glad it seemed to work out for you :)
     

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