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post #1 of 10 Old 09-26-2013, 06:40 PM Thread Starter
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Negra and the Tail of the Never staying Tail bag

So I have been trying to grow my mare's tail (and save it from the horrible things she manages to do to it). I braided her tail in a normal braid below the dock and left it alone for 3 days. It looked normal when I went to un-braid it. IDK HOW she did it but it was completely matted (all 3 strands of the braid were turned into a dreadlock). It took me 30 min just to un-braid it and another 20 to brush it using a butt load of conditioner and sprays. So I re-braided it and used a tail bag. Both where half way down her tail in an hour. So I braided and folded the braid 3 times and used a hair tie to hold it place (different day and I washed all the stuff out of her tail before braiding in the first place). I used this vid as instruction to see what I was doing wrong.

That lasted an hour. This is the tail bag im using.

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So im at a loss as how to keep her tail braided and keep the bag on.
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post #2 of 10 Old 09-26-2013, 08:39 PM
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I like to use the ones that are a soft fabric, 3 separate tubes stitched together at the top.
I braid the tail into 3 sections and slip each section into a tube. Then I braid the fabric/tail sections and tie a few knots in the end. If it seems too long (you don't want your horse stepping on it while backing or getting up from a nap), you can trim the excess fabric.
It works great for our Belgian because he has typical coarse tail hair, in the winter I keep him braided up and take it down about once a month to brush, condition and re-braid. But the Mustang has soft tail hair that feels more like human hair and nothing will stay in.
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You have to braid tightly enough and put the straps THROUGH the braid (and tie them several times, IME) to hold it on. The 3-tube braid bags have never stayed for mine no matter what I do, but a regular tail bag will as long as I secure the braid at the bottom so it can't come undone - but my boy rips them within a few days (on what, I have no clue) so he spends more time out of a tail bag since I have to take them home and sew them back up *rolls eyes*

I've been using this method instead and it's been working so far.
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I do braid tight and tie it through. Maybe I need a stronger hair tie lol. I know someone who duct tapes the entier bag tight so he can't rip it of get it off. He has a 7ft tail o.0! I'm leary about taping hers as she may just take her entier tail with it lol.
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My other horse actually just took his entire tail with a wrap recently :( :( So yeah, that's a legitimate fear, his tail was pretty long and I was SO upset when I got to the barn and found it GONE! I'd be careful with that too!
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So I have been trying to grow my mare's tail (and save it from the horrible things she manages to do to it). I braided her tail in a normal braid below the dock and left it alone for 3 days. It looked normal when I went to un-braid it. IDK HOW she did it but it was completely matted (all 3 strands of the braid were turned into a dreadlock). It took me 30 min just to un-braid it and another 20 to brush it using a butt load of conditioner and sprays. So I re-braided it and used a tail bag. Both where half way down her tail in an hour. So I braided and folded the braid 3 times and used a hair tie to hold it place (different day and I washed all the stuff out of her tail before braiding in the first place). I used this vid as instruction to see what I was doing wrong.
Putting Shanti's tail in a tail bag-HOW TO... - YouTube

That lasted an hour. This is the tail bag im using.

Lycra Tie Tail Bags (Solid Colors) :: Estrella Horse Blankets

So im at a loss as how to keep her tail braided and keep the bag on.
I'm not a fan of the braiding technique used in that video for a couple of reasons. Unless there are no flies around, it's way too easy for a strap and a side of velco to come undone. Once the bag is off, the bands won't do anything to help the tail and will be very likely to break off with the swishing of the tail. One thing I noticed immediately is that the tail hairs were braided into the main part of the tail. This is something that should always be avoided. Those shorter hairs are very easy to damage and break and the roots are easier to damage from the pull of being in the braid and any tail swishing. Also, after the first couple of braiding passes (probably the top 3-4" of the braid), the braid should get much tighter. This is especially true if you have a tail with soft/fine hair. The braid should start roughly one hand length (hand held horizontally, like gripping the tail) down from the tail dock. That's where braiding the first couple of inches comes in handy. It gives some leeway in case the braid starts too close to the dock.

There were some other thoughts I had, but I've totally forgotten what I was going to say. I got distracted, sorry.

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Thanks for the info! Im new to tail braiding as my mare SUDDENLY is 'swarmed by horse eating flies" the moment I start braiding -_-'. I don't want to braid it and leave it out of a tail bag because then im just giving her a weapon and she knows it XD! Could you post a vid where they are doing it right? She has a thick tail but the hair is soft and fine and she manages to catch it on EVERYTHING. Or it mats within 2 min of me brushing it.
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I found this video by Tommy Garland (like he really braids his own horses' tails, lol) and I completely love the way he braids. The bag he's using is really only good for horses that won't be out in any real inclement weather, so I still don't recommend that. But, his braid is exactly what I do, though I don't keep the rubber band in when I finish with the tail. I wrap my horse's tail and don't bag it at all. That's a personal preference thing. You'll hear horror stories from all sides about which way to braid, bag, wrap, etc is best. You just have to find what works for you and your horse.

Anyway, here's the link for the braid:

Oh, I wanted to add that I with fine tails I braid even tighter than what he starts doing. As long as you keep the top part that you braided loose, you can make the rest just about as tight as you want.

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Ill Try that tomorrow! I might still bag it as she will use it as a bull whip 0.0, or spin it over her back like a helicopter XD lol! At least the bag softens the impact.
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When you use the bag, knot each pair through a different pay off the top of the braid instead of both through the same section. That may help. Also, tie many knots.
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