From picking up other horses hooves, I learned to lightly put your shoulder into theirs and pull and like massage to get them to pick up. This doesnt work with him.
NOW, I can get each front hoof with less fight by far, but he is doing weird things. Like ill have ahold of it, and am bent over asking for his hoof, I no longer push into his shoulder because he will just push back against me harder. So I don't do that anymore. He turns his head and smells all over my back and bum and is like watching me like what are you doing, I shoe his face away but I think he's a bit confused maybe on what im wanting or maybe just seeing how long I will hold on before getting his hoof idk..
His big weird issue though, is he literally tries to like... get away.. without lifting up the one hoof I want, so he slowly starts moving all the rest of his feet away, and I have to like shuffle around, until the hoof I have is the LAST one that needs to be moved, when he goes to move it is when I pick it up successfully. I can hold it and pick at it for a few seconds, then he is wanting to pull it away a little, I keep holding, and he starts to like try to move around while I've got his hoof! So then he's moving all his feet and im shuffling around while I have his hoof in hand, and hopping around with his grounded other front hoof, then he wants to start going to the ground and leaning down to get on his front knees, which he has done before but usually I try to just end on a good note and pick a little more and place it back down, in a certain spot, myself. In other words, I put it down when and where I want, not him.
Suggestions?? He's a wiggle worm.
I also do this untied, I know that may help a little bit to tie him but I like to do as much as I can free hand, or natural. I don't want to have to tie him just to get him to do something for me. Also, I don't think tying would stop his wiggling, we don't have cross ties.