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    12-29-2012, 11:13 AM
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Weanling
picking up my horses feet- he has a weird thing going on lol

Every morning I have been practicing picking up my horses feet, at first he was SO reluctant to let me get one, I would be out there for a good 30 min holding and trying to get just one hoof was all! He used to push on me and put all the weight he had on the one hoof I wanted.

From picking up other horses hooves, I learned to lightly put your shoulder into theirs and pull and like massage to get them to pick up. This doesnt work with him.

NOW, I can get each front hoof with less fight by far, but he is doing weird things. Like ill have ahold of it, and am bent over asking for his hoof, I no longer push into his shoulder because he will just push back against me harder. So I don't do that anymore. He turns his head and smells all over my back and bum and is like watching me like what are you doing, I shoe his face away but I think he's a bit confused maybe on what im wanting or maybe just seeing how long I will hold on before getting his hoof idk..

His big weird issue though, is he literally tries to like... get away.. without lifting up the one hoof I want, so he slowly starts moving all the rest of his feet away, and I have to like shuffle around, until the hoof I have is the LAST one that needs to be moved, when he goes to move it is when I pick it up successfully. I can hold it and pick at it for a few seconds, then he is wanting to pull it away a little, I keep holding, and he starts to like try to move around while I've got his hoof! So then he's moving all his feet and im shuffling around while I have his hoof in hand, and hopping around with his grounded other front hoof, then he wants to start going to the ground and leaning down to get on his front knees, which he has done before but usually I try to just end on a good note and pick a little more and place it back down, in a certain spot, myself. In other words, I put it down when and where I want, not him.

Suggestions?? He's a wiggle worm.

I also do this untied, I know that may help a little bit to tie him but I like to do as much as I can free hand, or natural. I don't want to have to tie him just to get him to do something for me. Also, I don't think tying would stop his wiggling, we don't have cross ties.
     
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    12-29-2012, 12:20 PM
  #2
Weanling
Hmmm is this a young horse who has never been taught to properly lift his feet or did this just start? If it just started he may be sore and it may hurt him to stand on 3 legs. Him wanting to drop to his knees sounds like a pain issue.
     
    12-29-2012, 12:26 PM
  #3
Weanling
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Originally Posted by hberrie    
Hmmm is this a young horse who has never been taught to properly lift his feet or did this just start? If it just started he may be sore and it may hurt him to stand on 3 legs. Him wanting to drop to his knees sounds like a pain issue.
he is 8, and has just been pastured his whole life. From what im told, someone rode him for awhile about 4 years ago, but im not sure what they did with his feet. He keeps them trimmed down himself naturall from running and playing, so I have yet to need him trimmed so I havent experienced that yet, or how he acts.

I really don't think its sore or pain, because he does it on both sides? Im not sure how he was taught to lift his feet either, im really thinking he is just confused about it and doesnt know what to do, and since I have ahold of a hoof its aqward for him and his reaction is he needs to get on his knees. He's tried to do that the whole time I've owned him, coming up on a year in april.

He has deffinately improved from when I first started trying, but im just wondering why he is acting so goofy about it, on both sides. He has good feet too and no injuries or fungus or cuts or anything like that, I always check
     
    12-29-2012, 12:39 PM
  #4
Weanling
Well I have heard people on here talking about teaching a horse to lift his hoof using a soft rope around the pastern. If I were you I would try that method. My guess at this point is that he was never taught how to do it. It is very important for any horse to be able to lift their feet for numerous reasons and I would definitely have a good farrier at least check his feet periodically (after he can pick them up safely of course) Good luck.
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    12-29-2012, 12:41 PM
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Green Broke
Your horse wants to do what is natural too-& he is-he's not picking up hs feet.
You don't need cross ties to tie. Tie him up & teach him to pick up his own feet when you ask. After that he may let you do it while he's untied but first he has to learn what you want.
I don't pick up my horses' feet, they are in the air waiting for me as I move hoof to hoof. They all learned that while tied.
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    12-29-2012, 12:43 PM
  #6
Weanling
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Originally Posted by natisha    
Your horse wants to do what is natural too-& he is-he's not picking up hs feet.
You don't need cross ties to tie. Tie him up & teach him to pick up his own feet when you ask. After that he may let you do it while he's untied but first he has to learn what you want.
I don't pick up my horses' feet, they are in the air waiting for me as I move hoof to hoof. They all learned that while tied.

I have tied him while doing his feet, I meant it wouldnt help him from squirming because since I don't have cross ties, he moves side to side and ends up parrallel to the hitching post.

So it pretty much is the same motions he's having while he isnt being tied up, he has the same range of motion
     
    12-29-2012, 12:53 PM
  #7
Green Broke
Cross ties will not stop a horse from moving his feet
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    12-29-2012, 03:38 PM
  #8
Trained
Use a soft rope as suggested ^^^ to lift, set down, lift, set down (whilst standing in front of him).

When ready to pick up a front,always make sure the back opposite ( or front opposite for picking up a back) is extended behind or in front, respectively.

I start w "at liberty" as my goal when I start w a youngster, I go between having someone hold them, to at liberty...it is a much slower process, but in the end I get what I want...a horse I can work with nicely at liberty.:) I will not tie an untrained horse to work on their feet - but I will enlist someone to hold them. It is my personal preference, and much safer.
To begin w, shoot for a 4-5 seconds of perfect behavior while holding his foot and making contact w something (hoof brush, pick, whatever). Set him down politely, do not drop. Praise him a lot for his few seconds accomplishment. If he has been worked w before, the process of building up to a minute or longer should go pretty darn quickly.
If you get frustrated, take a time out - do not lose it w the horse.
That is my .02.
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    12-29-2012, 03:42 PM
  #9
Weanling
I would try "pecking" at his fetlock joint with the point of your hoof pick, a rhythmic tap, tap, tap, tap until he gets tired of it and shifts his weight off his foot in preparation to move away from the tapping. It may only take a couple taps, or it may take 5 minutes...just keep tapping. DO NOT hurt him with the tapping, just make it annoying.

Be ready to lean into his shoulder as soon as he shifts his weight, then pull forward on the back of his fetlock until his hoof breaks over the toe and then pick up his foot.

Only hold it for a quick minute, then put it down before he tries to take it away from you. Repeat, repeat, repeat. It's just a matter of time and repetition and he will be lifting them up before you even have to reach down.

If you hold his foot and wrestle with him for it, you will just encourage him to resist. Because his feet are his only escape mechanism, having them help tightly will only serve to make him reluctant to give them to you.
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    12-29-2012, 03:48 PM
  #10
Weanling
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Originally Posted by natisha    
Cross ties will not stop a horse from moving his feet
okay do you think I am completely ******ed or something? I KNOW that cross ties will not stop a horse from moving its feet! But in this case I do think it would be a little more helpful to be tied on both sides of his head using cross ties, rather than tying a lead rope from under his chin, giving him alot more mobilitiy with his head and also the rest of his body. Im not saying it would keep him from moving, im saying if his head was less mobile, it would probably keep him alot less apt from moving parallel, or 90 degrees from his starting point. That is the point I am trying to make with the cross ties.
     

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