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        01-05-2013, 11:50 PM
      #21
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chessie    
    Could everyone please consider very carefully the implications of what you are saying when you are using the word ******ed.

    You are off hand using a word that has for at least the last forty years been used to label people with who struggle every day of their lives to learn the most simple of tasks, and they do so with heart and courage.

    You are taking that word, and making it a baseline for scorn.

    There is a litany of other words that you can use that don't have the same shameful heat attached to them.

    Please choose a different word. For some, it's like a dagger in the heart to have it used so flippantly and carelessly.

    O.o

    It's a word.

    It only has an effect on you if you choose to allow it too.
         
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        01-06-2013, 12:15 AM
      #22
    Weanling
    There are several words that are "just words". Some of them start with "f", some of them start with "c", some of them start with "n". Should I throw them around like they mean nothing? I'm sure that the moderators on the forum would appreciate that.

    The fact is, this is a large public forum with a diverse membership, and it is best for all of us to be mindful of what we say.

    That might be "just a word" for you. Fine. Say it to your heart's content when you are alone in your bedroom.

    I'm asking you to think about what you are really saying when you are using it as a scorn-filled, ugly word in a place where there are likely people involved with hippotherapy groups that work every day with innocent children who bear the burden of that word.

    If that word has no impact on you, God bless you and I hope it never does.

    In the mean time, please remember, words connect us, and they tear us apart. Words can start wars. Words can be used as weapons that have the potential to cut so deeply they take lives.

    Take care with your words.
         
        01-06-2013, 12:25 AM
      #23
    Showing
    When the horse sniffs your back and butt as you are bent over, he's doing what he would to a foal (you're about the same height). Here's a method that works for picking up his feet. Get your lunge whip and line and in a safe place make him trot briskly for 3 circles. Then bring him to you and start asking for a hoof. If he won't lift or starts doing anything but stand there, immediately chase him out on the lunge (like you're going to kill him) and again 3 circles at a brisk trot - no cantering. Bring him back to the spot and ask again. You may have to chase him again but usually by then the horse has figured out he can cooperate to work. Do the same with each leg. Keep the whip handy and keep him on the lunge line and do the exercise until you are content with how he is standing. Doing 3 circles is the right number, no more, no less and he has to hustle.
         
        01-06-2013, 04:45 PM
      #24
    Weanling
    I work on cars and an engine that is out of time is ******ed so I wonder if this offends you. I personally cannot stand overly sensitive PC types who take offense to everything as if it's personal. UGH. My father has been blind since birth and I could give a **** less if they call him handicapped, handicapable, visually impaired, or blind as a bat. It makes no difference to me because I know who and what he is so get over yourselves and stop the pity parties. Really? There are so many definitions of the word ******ed and I don't think that it will be removed from the dictionary anytime soon. A word is just a word and should be interpreted accordingly.
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        01-06-2013, 05:25 PM
      #25
    Started
    On his front legs try this. Reach for his chestnut ad just squeeze it and hold it like that for a few seconds until he lifts his foot up. If he still doesn't lift his foot, twist it and hold it. It won't hurt him, by the way. Just hold it until he makes even the slightest move to pick up his hoof - just to start until he learns what you want him to do.

    On his hind legs, just grab his hock and squeeze. If he still doesn't lift his foot and a few seconds form that, keep squeezing and wiggle it back and forth. If he still doesn't try, pinch it and then wiggle.

    In the wild, when one horse wants to make another horse move away from him, he will bite at either his hock or chestnut. You want to try and be natural with your horse, so these are the likely places your horse will know what you want when you first begin.

    My horse has the same problems, and this really does work. His front feet are good, but I have to go all the way to the pinching before he gives my his hoof. Lol..
    Hope this works for you!
         
        01-06-2013, 05:53 PM
      #26
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hberrie    
    I work on cars and an engine that is out of time is ******ed so I wonder if this offends you. I personally cannot stand overly sensitive PC types who take offense to everything as if it's personal. UGH. My father has been blind since birth and I could give a **** less if they call him handicapped, handicapable, visually impaired, or blind as a bat. It makes no difference to me because I know who and what he is so get over yourselves and stop the pity parties. Really? There are so many definitions of the word ******ed and I don't think that it will be removed from the dictionary anytime soon. A word is just a word and should be interpreted accordingly.
    And how should I interpret it when someone says "What do you think I'm ******ed?" Do you think she's comparing herself to an ill-timed engine block?

    I don't think so.

    Here's the translation. "What, do you think I'm like one of THOSE people who is born so completely stupid she can't tie her shoes without help, or eat in a restaurant without people staring, or learn to read past a second grade level even though she has tried and practiced and never given up every day for the last four years."

    If you think you can waltz on through your life saying whatever you want and feel like you are entitled to blame those who are offended by what YOU said for their insensitivity, well there's a word for those people too, and I have too much dignity to say it here. Just be prepared to live with that label because you will have earned it, unlike all the "stupid ******s" out there who never did anything to deserve the judgement associated with that word.

    The very second discussion thread of this forum is about maintaining a comfortable and conscientious environment that is friendly and accepting to ALL members of this community. All I'm asking is for people to stop and think about what they are really saying and to consider that this is a large membership with varying backgrounds and that is a cruel word that is capable of causing offense. There are plenty others you can use, unless you are so privileged, you can't bother to expand your vocabulary.

    How would it sound if we substituted some other words in there.

    "What do you think I am, black?"

    How about,

    "What do you think I am, a woman?"

    Does it sound complimentary yet? I didn't think so.

    Now it is all fine and dandy for you to not be offended by whatever you wish, but you do NOT have the right to decide what is or isn't offensive to others. If you get called out for a careless choice of words by another, blaming them for being too touchy is not a very gracious course of action.

    Think people. Otherwise you are a fool. And that is a word that implies you have a choice in your own stupidity.
         
        01-06-2013, 06:20 PM
      #27
    Weanling
    BTW, I didn't mean to do any thread hijacking. I'm also looking for hoof lifting tricks. I hope the discussion continues. There have been some very good suggestions.
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        01-10-2013, 07:01 PM
      #28
    Green Broke
    Teach horse a command associated with standing stock still first. Be still, get on your feet, keep those feet still or STAY! Any of those will work, and then reinforce it with consistency. And make horse do it, not lollygag around.

    And anytime you let a horse get away with something, such as moving around, you are teaching it that it can do what it wants when it wants. That is why everything should be done with horse tied up somehow.

    You should keep body against horse at some part, so that you can feel if horse is shifting weight to move, and you can correct it. If you are not feeling the flesh, you will not react in time.

    As for the smelling and sniffing, that should not be allowed to happen, if horse was tied, it would be stopped. That is a short step to getting bit. Also, picking up feet with horse untied would result in you getting hurt badly if horse decides to wheel and kick out, which would rearrange your hair and face possibly. And you would be unable to protect yourself since you have no control over horse.

    I don't massage the leg to get one to pick up. I pinch, and then tap with back of hoof pick if need be on the fetlock joint.

    Remember to only V your hand when working on front legs. V'ing is when thumb and other four fingers are separated, and both apply pressure on opposite side of cannon bone. Power in the front legs is forward to strike.

    This incidentally is why, when holding for a farrier you stand to the opposite side of the farrier on the front legs, as if horse pulls foot away, it will strike forwards in doing so, and peel your shin skin down to your foot, which hurts like a sun of a gun. You also can then back horse away from farrier if need be faster to protect them. On back legs you stand on same side as farrier as if horse acts up, you can pull head to that side, moving hindquarters away from farrier.

    Do not V on the back legs, but rather cup your hand so that thumb and fingers are together on one side of cannon bone of back leg. If you V your hand, a horse that kicks to pull free can dislocate or break your thumb. Their power in the back legs is backwards. At the least you will have a nasty bruise.

    It also is important that you are in the right position. I see too many that try to pick up feet when they are too far out, or too far forwards on front feet and back. For back feet you have to pick up and back at same time, resting hoof on knee. For front, you need to cup the hoof quickly, so horse doesn't have to shift weight as much.

    For horse easing back, or leaning into, correct them, either with thumbnail in side, or an elbow and a voice command to get on their feet.

    But best way is to have horse that will pick up feet as go around, and they can be taught that easily, and many of the Saddlebreds I worked with would do it as they knew from grooming that was what was needed.
         
        01-10-2013, 09:46 PM
      #29
    Green Broke
    1) if your horse drops to his knees, get out of the way and give him a whack.
    That is dangerous.
    2) I forgot whom posted it, ask for a leg, no leg.. then move your butt in a circle. Keep it up. Pretty soon he will let you have the leg, because horses are lazy creatures and will choose the easy way out.
    The OP should not have gotten her panty in a wad, no one made any comment as to mental status except her, and that should have been taken to a diff post, or should have been sent to her private.
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        01-10-2013, 10:03 PM
      #30
    Started
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FaydesMom    
    O.o

    It's a word.

    It only has an effect on you if you choose to allow it too.
    Yeah, it's a word -- and words mean things. You have been kindly asked to think about what the words you are saying mean before you say them.

    It is not difficult to remove it from your vocabulary in mixed company.

    When you use that word in a derogatory manor, you're implying that being mentally ******ed is a derogatory thing to be -- that those people are less than you are. Please be aware of what you are actually saying.
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