Originally Posted by AlottaBitCountry
i think I should try this, ill take a better look at him this evening when I go back out, and just judge his body language again to make sure, but I think partly he doesnt know how to atleast pick it up correctly, and partly he just doesnt want me to have it. He will do anything he can to keep that foot planted. He knows I want it, I very lightly hold it and massage it and pull on his fetlocks or just grasp them sometimes, I do all kinds of things and he just sticks it in the ground harder.
I think a few small, unaggetated(spelling), circles might help him realize just to give me the foot. I will try this this evening
After being consistent and persistent in asking for his hooves....you will find how easily he will do it. Once you establish that, it will be easy for you to recognize when something is wrong ie: he is in pain or being a pill, since it will not be normal to act like that any longer.
My mares seem to know that as soon as I turn to face their legs and bend down, to pay attention, because I will probably want their feet. If I want their foot, I will run my hand down their leg and tell them, "Foot". At this point, they will pick it up, sometimes before I even ask. Sometimes, I want to scrape the mud off of their hoof before picking it up. When they pick it up, I tap the top of the hoof and tell them, "Down" and they put it down until I ask for it.
This all happens fairly quickly, once you are consistent and persistent. Be sure you don't switch and change the ways you are asking. Stay consistent with one cue/reprimand/reward.