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post #1 of 7 Old 08-06-2011, 02:11 AM Thread Starter
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pulling back while cross tying

Hello all, I have recently move my horse to a new facility and I decided to cross tie him while grooming. Twice now he has pulled back the first time it was a spook but tonight he really pulled back hard and almost fell on his hindside, I calmed him a bit but I am fairly new to this so I hate it when this happens it puts extra stress on both of us:(, is the new situation causing this? He is usually calm but even when I brought him to the old facility I had a adjustment period, I noticed he doesn't like to be alone in the arena as well especially at the new place. I am hoping he will adjust and it won't be a problem soon but being new it can still be a bit scary for me and I want us both to be safe, he is seven and not super broke but I spend a fair bit of time with him and so far the experience has been very good, he is easy to saddle and ride and has no buck in him I have about 30-40 rides and other riders and trainers have no problems with him either he learns fast, I purchase him about 3 months ago. I will try just tying him to one chain at the end of the hall with a opening to outside instead of in the middle where the cross ties are located, any suggestions otherwise would be greatly appreciated I just want to avoid a train wreck. Thx in advance:)
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I am sorry but I can't figure out how to make changes to my post? I am thinking now that I have put him in a uncomfortable situation. In the past I have always just tied him with his rope on halter (not chains on halter) and he has been fine. I also know that I am making some mistakes along the way here and will learn from them, adjusting to a new facility is harder than I thought it would be but I also know he will adjust, good advice would still be greatly appreciated, sorry if its a stupid question but I believe the only stupid questions are the ones I dont ask.
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post #3 of 7 Old 08-06-2011, 09:18 AM
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I also know that I am making some mistakes along the way here and will learn from them, adjusting to a new facility is harder than I thought it would be but I also know he will adjust, good advice would still be greatly appreciated, sorry if its a stupid question but I believe the only stupid questions are the ones I dont ask.
Horses absolutely hate change and when changing his home and herd, there is only one constant left....you, so the best advice is for you to keep your normal routine and act like nothing has changed at all. There is a wide variation on how long horses take to adjust, but not having you 'change' too will help your horse relax a lot.

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Since your horse behaves very well when tied by a halter and lead rope the sudden switch to being cross-tyed is a totally new experience for him. While the concept of cross-tying is elementary to you it is not so for your horse. As long as your tying him with a halter and lead is a good thing while grooming and saddling continue to use that method.

Sometimes a horse can get into serious trouble in cross-ties.
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I agree candandy49, if your horse ties fine with a halter and lead rope, then I would stick with that. Also, your horse is probably more nervous because of the new place. It will take a while for him to become completely comfortable there. After a few months, if you want to try cross tying again, he may not have a problem with it. I would caution you, however, not to keep cross tying him if he continues to pull back. The more he does it, the more he will create a habit of doing it, and the more nervous you will get.

You are absolutely right, the only stupid question is the one that doesn't get asked! You are doing the smart thing by asking for advise, a horse that pulls back can be very dangerous for you and for him. I had a horse that used to pull back in cross ties, and it scared me to the point where I just quit cross tying him. Good luck with your horse, and keep up the good work!
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Thank you very much!
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Hi Telly, I moved my mare two months ago to a new facility and I agree with everything that's been said. She already knew how to cross-tie but both places I used them had nylon ties with the quick release snaps in case a horse tried to go over. But I also groom her in a stall, out in the pasture or take a brush along when I mosey her (Just let her wander with me eating grass outside the pasture, great way to bond They were right, when a horse is introduced to a new place, the only constant is you. For the first, oh I'd say 7 weeks I went out she would see or hear me, and race to the barn. Last time I called her and she lifted her head and looked and kept on grazing, so I think she's settling in now, LOL.
You can train him to those cross ties if you think it's absolutely necessary to use them, but myself I don't like chains. I won't use a lead rope with a chain, and right after I moved, the new BO showed me a lunge line she had bought and never used and said I was welcome to use it, but it has a 6" chain on the end so I thanked her, but said I wouldn't need it. I always do ground work with her before I ride her, just 'tune-up' stuff, and I'm not the most graceful person, LOL so it's too easy to get rough with a chain. I used the attached lead on my rope halter. But if I was training her to cross ties, I would stop, attach her on one side to her nylon halter (not the rope halter)and give her a big scritch on the withers. In your case you could even use a small treat. next time stop and attach him only on one side, but the other side than the first, and repeat. As soon as he eats the treat, or you give him the scritch, unsnap him and groom him in your usual way. And so on. Cheryl
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