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        07-08-2008, 01:56 PM
      #11
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sara
    I forgot to add, yes, mtg will cause sunburn. So if your horse has a fine haircoat or mane, you have to use it with caution if they are going to be outside all day.
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    Where did you get the information from? Curious because I have used MTG on my horses for years. All of them are kept outside year round, never had problems.
         
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        07-08-2008, 02:18 PM
      #12
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    It says so on the bottle. I haven't had a problem with it either, to be honest, but I've always used it in small spots on horses with a pretty dense coat. A full mane treatment could be problematic though.
         
        07-08-2008, 02:19 PM
      #13
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by My2Geldings
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sara
    I forgot to add, yes, mtg will cause sunburn. So if your horse has a fine haircoat or mane, you have to use it with caution if they are going to be outside all day.
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    Where did you get the information from? Curious because I have used MTG on my horses for years. All of them are kept outside year round, never had problems.
    It says on the bottle it may cause some sunburn issues on light colored horses. I've seen it happen on the white markings of paint horses where it dripped down from the mane, etc. Maybe in Canada the sunlight isnt' intense enough to burn yours? I dunno. It's mostly petroleum based oil with some sulfur in it, so I could see it magnifiying the sun's rays.
         
        07-08-2008, 02:24 PM
      #14
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by barefoothooves
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by My2Geldings
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sara
    I forgot to add, yes, mtg will cause sunburn. So if your horse has a fine haircoat or mane, you have to use it with caution if they are going to be outside all day.
    \

    Where did you get the information from? Curious because I have used MTG on my horses for years. All of them are kept outside year round, never had problems.
    It says on the bottle it may cause some sunburn issues on light colored horses. I've seen it happen on the white markings of paint horses where it dripped down from the mane, etc. Maybe in Canada the sunlight isnt' intense enough to burn yours? I dunno. It's mostly petroleum based oil with some sulfur in it, so I could see it magnifiying the sun's rays.
    White markings? It sounds to me like the standard sunburns you get from pink skin. The purpose of MTG is to regrow hair in places where the hair has been ripped out, or simply gone. If MTG caused burns to the exposed skin (where the MTG has been placed) it would do more harm than good. If that was the case, they wouldn't put that product on the shelfs.
         
        07-08-2008, 02:26 PM
      #15
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    Original M-T-G™
    Shapley’s™

    Description:
    Original M-T-G is the single solution for: Fungus, Rain Rot, Girth Itch, Scratches, Dermatitis, Tail Rubbing, Short or Thin Tail, Conditioning, Lengthening, Dry Skin. The ultimate mane and tail conditioner, skin and fungus treatment and hair growth producer.

    Directions:
    Turn bottle upside down and shake vigorously. Contents must be thoroughly mixed. As normal precaution, pretest unaffected area for sensitivity for first time use. Wash out any other prior products used. During use, keep out of intense sun to prevent sunburn.

    Treatment for Fungus, Rainrot, Girth Itch, Scratches, Dandruff and Tail Rubbing: Apply directly to affected area and massage in. Leave on—do not rinse! Apply daily until significant hair growth occurs, fungus disappears or problem is eliminated. For best results, continue M-T-G use weekly. Washes out with Hi Shine Shampoo.

    Conditioner for Mane and Tail, Treatment for Detangling and Mane and Tail Growth: Use as a leave-in conditioner twice a week. Massage in mane/tail including base of mane and entire tail bone. Does not need to be washed out between applications. For best results, braid tail and contain in tail bag. Wash out with Hi Shine Shampoo prior to showing.

    As a Dermatitis Treatment: Apply M-T-G directly to the affected area and massage in. Do not wash out. Reapply daily until all visible signs of problem are eliminated. To ensure complete treatment, decrease applications to 3 times a week, then 2 times a week, then once a week for the next month.

    Caution:
    Keep from reach of children. For animal use only. If irritation occurs, discontinue and contact veterinarian. May be harmful if swallowed. Do not induce vomiting. Consult your doctor. Flush with water if contact with eyes or mouth.


    No warning about the possibility of burns
         
        07-08-2008, 02:31 PM
      #16
    Weanling
    [quote=My2Geldings]
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by "barefoothooves
    It says on the bottle it may cause some sunburn issues on light colored horses. I've seen it happen on the white markings of paint horses where it dripped down from the mane, etc. Maybe in Canada the sunlight isnt' intense enough to burn yours? I dunno. It's mostly petroleum based oil with some sulfur in it, so I could see it magnifiying the sun's rays.[/quote

    White markings? It sounds to me like the standard sunburns you get from pink skin. The purpose of MTG is to regrow hair in places where the hair has been ripped out, or simply gone. If MTG caused burns to the exposed skin (where the MTG has been placed) it would do more harm than good. If that was the case, they wouldn't put that product on the shelfs.
    Nope, when not using the MTG, these horses don't have problems with sunburns. And the product also says if you overuse it, it can cause hairloss, if I recall correctly. I have a bottle at the barn, but that's 15 miles away. LOL I'll happily check back with you tomorrow.

    Lots of things that can be really harmful are on the shelves. Some fly sprays have oils in them that irritate (and promote sunburns in light colored horses) more than the flies do.
         
        07-08-2008, 02:35 PM
      #17
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by My2Geldings
    Print this page
    Original M-T-G™
    Shapley’s™

    Description:
    Original M-T-G is the single solution for: Fungus, Rain Rot, Girth Itch, Scratches, Dermatitis, Tail Rubbing, Short or Thin Tail, Conditioning, Lengthening, Dry Skin. The ultimate mane and tail conditioner, skin and fungus treatment and hair growth producer.

    Directions:
    Turn bottle upside down and shake vigorously. Contents must be thoroughly mixed. As normal precaution, pretest unaffected area for sensitivity for first time use. Wash out any other prior products used. During use, keep out of intense sun to prevent sunburn.Treatment for Fungus, Rainrot, Girth Itch, Scratches, Dandruff and Tail Rubbing: Apply directly to affected area and massage in. Leave on—do not rinse! Apply daily until significant hair growth occurs, fungus disappears or problem is eliminated. For best results, continue M-T-G use weekly. Washes out with Hi Shine Shampoo.

    Conditioner for Mane and Tail, Treatment for Detangling and Mane and Tail Growth: Use as a leave-in conditioner twice a week. Massage in mane/tail including base of mane and entire tail bone. Does not need to be washed out between applications. For best results, braid tail and contain in tail bag. Wash out with Hi Shine Shampoo prior to showing.

    As a Dermatitis Treatment: Apply M-T-G directly to the affected area and massage in. Do not wash out. Reapply daily until all visible signs of problem are eliminated. To ensure complete treatment, decrease applications to 3 times a week, then 2 times a week, then once a week for the next month.

    Caution:
    Keep from reach of children. For animal use only. If irritation occurs, discontinue and contact veterinarian. May be harmful if swallowed. Do not induce vomiting. Consult your doctor. Flush with water if contact with eyes or mouth.


    No warning about the possibility of burns
    I put bold on the sunburn part for ya...
         
        07-08-2008, 02:36 PM
      #18
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    [quote=barefoothooves]
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by My2Geldings
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by "barefoothooves
    It says on the bottle it may cause some sunburn issues on light colored horses. I've seen it happen on the white markings of paint horses where it dripped down from the mane, etc. Maybe in Canada the sunlight isnt' intense enough to burn yours? I dunno. It's mostly petroleum based oil with some sulfur in it, so I could see it magnifiying the sun's rays.[/quote

    White markings? It sounds to me like the standard sunburns you get from pink skin. The purpose of MTG is to regrow hair in places where the hair has been ripped out, or simply gone. If MTG caused burns to the exposed skin (where the MTG has been placed) it would do more harm than good. If that was the case, they wouldn't put that product on the shelfs.
    Nope, when not using the MTG, these horses don't have problems with sunburns. And the product also says if you overuse it, it can cause hairloss, if I recall correctly. I have a bottle at the barn, but that's 15 miles away. LOL I'll happily check back with you tomorrow.

    Lots of things that can be really harmful are on the shelves. Some fly sprays have oils in them that irritate (and promote sunburns in light colored horses) more than the flies do.
    Read my second last post.
         
        07-08-2008, 02:38 PM
      #19
    Started
    This is what the very bottom of my bottle says.

    Caution: As a normal precaution for first time use, pretest unaffected area for sensitivity. Wash out any prior treatments before applying Original M-T-G, as use of other products may cause cross reaction. During use, keep animal out of intense sun to prevent sunburn. Applying Original M-T-G in early evening usually prevents sunburn from occurring. Using Original M-T-G more frequently than recommended may result in adverse effect. If irritation occurs, discontinue use, wash out and consult a Veterinarian, if necessary. Keep from reach of children. Not intended for human use. Basically non-toxic if swallowed. Do not induce vomiting. Consult your doctor. Flush well with water if contact with mouth or eyes.
         
        07-08-2008, 02:38 PM
      #20
    Weanling
    M2G,
    We are posting faster than the site can keep up! LOL I reposted your MTG label with the sunburn warning in bold.
         

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