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post #51 of 90 Old 01-09-2014, 04:41 AM
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Honestly, I'm seeing so many people coming up with the arguments that the so and so winner of such and such a cup was unshod, and that certain disciplines seem to be abandoning shoes.

Personal opinion, it's not a valid argument.

It's like saying everyone should wear...let's say a jumper (top, sweater or whatever you call it where you live). Some people need it, some people don't.

Two perfect examples. My first pony and my friend's first pony. Mine didn't need shoes, and I trekked on roads, hunted, jumped competitively in all types of terrain (grass, sand, etc.) on him. He never went lame or had a problem. We tried to put shoes on him and he couldn't walk. Slipped and fell everywhere.

My friend's horse on the other hand, who was the exact same breed, similar confirmation, heck even the same colour even though that has nothing to do with it. Her mare was always shod. She did the exact same things I did. In contrast, she decided to leave her mare unshod, and guess what? Went ballistic. Freaked out at every new type of terrain. Could. Not. Walk.

So you see it depends on each individual horse. Some only need front shoes, some only need back. The reasons for getting your horse shod are also so varied it would take me the rest of my life to list them all. They could need extra grip if you ride on grass a lot and your horse tends to slip. The horse could have unsound feet and may need medically prescribed shoes to fix overgrown hooves, pain in the foot, lameness, etc. They could just have weak feet thanks to their gene pool.

So seek your farrier's and vet's advice, because they will through sheer experience, have a good opinion as to whether your horse needs to be shod. Don't listen to the claims that eventers are starting to abandon shoes, that winners of shows/vents are now more commonly unshod, etc. Simply because every single horse is different, and some just need shoes, while others don't.
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post #52 of 90 Old 01-09-2014, 09:17 AM
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I didn't read all of the posts on this thread, but wanted to share my opinion none the less.

Basically, I wanted to reiterate the above: ask your farrier or vet. I know some people don't agree with the "Ask your farrier" (because apparently they think all farriers are money hungry? XD), but they are a professional and you pay them for a reason.
If you're not comfortable with that, ask someone where you board. Not all horses need shoes, but some do.

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post #53 of 90 Old 01-09-2014, 09:22 AM
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I would say that if you aren't comfortable asking your farrier or vet for the opinion because you think they are money hungry and out to screw you, either you need therapy to work through some issues or you need to find a farrier/vet that IS trustworthy. There are quite a few out there.
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post #54 of 90 Old 01-09-2014, 10:13 AM
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I would say that if you aren't comfortable asking your farrier or vet for the opinion because you think they are money hungry and out to screw you, either you need therapy to work through some issues or you need to find a farrier/vet that IS trustworthy. There are quite a few out there.
I couldn't agree more with you, I've been looking through the entire forum and I'm starting to realize how good we have it here in Ireland. There's a decent, friendly stables in almost every town, and the one I will shortly be attending is the best around.

When I had my pony on self-care board at the same stables (I left and have returned since), the farrier was the significant other of the BO/BM at the time. He made an individual decision based on each horse, and as he did handyman jobs around the yard, he was usually to be found chilling around the place and would have no problem just having a look at your horses feet and giving you his professional opinion, free of charge. You always offered though out of politeness, of course!

I totally agree with the last two posters though, if you're not happy with your vet/farriers professional opinion, then you need to find yourself ones whose opinions you respect and trust.
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Exactly. My current farrier is great and just about every one I have worked with has been trustworthy and honest. The one I had the hardest time with was the natural trimmer, he'd been to farrier school and all that, but had decided to stop shoeing because he believed it was unhealthy for the horse. He tried REALLY hard to get my boy comfortable barefoot, but it just wasn't happening unfortunately. Ah well, maybe someday I will be a millionaire and can design a paddock/pasture situation that will make my boy's feet not suck.
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post #56 of 90 Old 01-09-2014, 11:32 AM
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I believe not to shoe. The horse is born without them, its not natural to nail a hunk of metal to their foot . I bought a gelding a few years ago and he had shoes. My farrier took them off and his feet where bad. Contracted heels from wearing them most of his life. And battling LTLH because of it. My farrier said it will take years to get him back to where he needs to be, and he would not recommend putting shoes back on him as it would make it worse. They are slowly getting back to shape and are still tender on hard ground but I use hoof boots to help him. I have 6 horses and none of them will ever see a shoe.
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^It may not be "natural" to have a hunk of metal in their foot, but is it natural for them to be wearing 20-50 pounds of leather and carrying a rider? No.

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No its not natural but tack does not hurt the horse ( If fitted properly) and cause the body to become twisted and painful. That saying I ride bitless and my tack is fitted to make the horse comfortable. Like I said shoes have ruined my horses feet and I choose not to use them .Everyone has there option on what they do with their horses and im not going to judge you for it .It is the OPs decision to shoe or not to shoe and I was giving my view on it.
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^For sure, I just found your post to be a bit accusatory, and all encompassing. "The horse is born without them, its not natural to nail a hunk of metal to their foot "
I invite you to check out some horses with sway backs and say that tack doesn't cause the body to become twisted and painful.
If done properly, by a professional, and for the right reasons, shoes shouldn't have these effects on the legs or feet.

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I did not post on here to be argued with, im not that kind of person.I didn't say that tack don't mess up the body. The body can be fixed if some somebody wants to put ill fitting tack on a horse. But as I said my horses feet have been messed up from wearing shoes most of his life and will take years of work to fix.I just posted here to tell my option and experience with shoes. No one is stopping you from putting shoes on your horse. So don't try to say shoes are ok, its my opinion.
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