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  • Human musvle stimulator on horses
  • Can you use a human muscle stimulator on a horse

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    12-06-2012, 10:05 PM
  #21
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Pattilou    


I just don't understand how hitting a muscle would make it stronger. It might make it bigger due to the trauma, but bigger and stronger are two different things. Interesting though I have never heard of it .
It promotes increased circulation and the muscles flex during strapping. Obviously it's not an instant change, just like you won't have amazing abs the first time you do a set of crunches.
     
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    12-06-2012, 10:33 PM
  #22
Yearling
Wow....I am speechless. Who came up with this idea? Does this method work on humans too?
     
    12-06-2012, 10:49 PM
  #23
Trained
"Q. If I use an electrical muscle stimulator that has met FDA regulatory requirements, will it give me the same kind of effect that lots of sit-ups, stomach crunches and other abdominal exercises will?

A. Using these devices alone will not give you "six-pack" abs. Applying electrical current to muscles may cause muscles to contract. Stimulating muscles repeatedly with electricity may eventually result in muscles that are strengthened and toned to some extent but will not, based on currently available data, create a major change in your appearance without the addition of diet and regular exercise."
http://www.fda.gov/MedicalDevices/Pr.../ucm142478.htm
"However, to really train and shape your muscles, you must move them through a full range of motion. While the machine may provide electrical stimulation, in reality your muscles are not moving very much; they are just experiencing small contractions in response to the impulse. For example, to really shape the biceps muscle in your arm, you must move your arm from a fully extended position to bending the elbow and bringing your hand toward your shoulder. This action works the entire muscle body. With an electronic muscle stimulation machine, your arm stays still and is not challenged to move against resistance. This means only a portion of your biceps muscle is actually being stimulated at a fixed angle."
About Electronic Muscle Stimulators | eHow.com About Electronic Muscle Stimulators | eHow.com

IIRC, most of these machines are used to provide 20-30 minutes of continuous contractions. Muscle strength is very specific. If you do a bicep curl, for example, and only move your arm half way up, then you gain almost no strength for moving your arm the entire way up - only over the range of motion that you move.
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    12-07-2012, 03:45 AM
  #24
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Originally Posted by goneriding    
Wow....I am speechless. Who came up with this idea? Does this method work on humans too?
I do not know who came up with the idea - they will long be dead!

Way back horses were strapped on a daily basis where there were a lot of grooms employed.

As for it working on humans - you can exercise all sorts of muscles when stood still just by tightening and relaxing muscle. All exercise will make any muscle stronger over a period of time.
     
    12-07-2012, 08:15 AM
  #25
Started
Only watched part of the video...nothing I would ever do to my horse...
     
    12-07-2012, 08:34 AM
  #26
Started
Wow, never heard of that! I didn't get to see the video though, but I can only imagine!
     
    12-07-2012, 08:39 AM
  #27
Started
Does this mean that after a patient receives ESWL....Extracorporeal Shock Wave Lithotripsy for bladder stones, where they are bumped with a machine for a while, which does cause bruising, that they will build muscle there too?...lol?
     
    12-07-2012, 08:52 AM
  #28
Trained
It probably makes more sense to think of it as horse massage - something that might feel good to a horse. Lots of humans enjoy a massage, but there isn't any evidence that it makes them stronger. If 30 minutes of continuous contractions doesn't build muscle in humans, then a few contractions after being 'strapped' isn't going to build muscles or strength in a horse. The horse would get more benefit from walking 50 feet than from strapping. But, as with humans, it might be OK as a massage technique.

No way it will ever happen with my horses. If they want a massage, they can roll in the corral...
     
    12-07-2012, 10:28 AM
  #29
Yearling
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Originally Posted by bsms    
It probably makes more sense to think of it as horse massage - something that might feel good to a horse. Lots of humans enjoy a massage, but there isn't any evidence that it makes them stronger. If 30 minutes of continuous contractions doesn't build muscle in humans, then a few contractions after being 'strapped' isn't going to build muscles or strength in a horse. The horse would get more benefit from walking 50 feet than from strapping. But, as with humans, it might be OK as a massage technique.

No way it will ever happen with my horses. If they want a massage, they can roll in the corral...
I think the thing is it's not just one session and you don't do it ever again. That wouldn't do anything. It's when you strap daily that you'd see the difference. If you flex a muscle for 30 minutes a day, every day for an indefinite period of time you will (maybe slowly, but definitely) see muscle improvement. Case and point, when I'm doing stalls my arms do most of the work but I do ever so slightly use my stomach muscles pushing the wheelbarrow up the ramp to dump the manure. Over time, I have actually begun to develop stronger abs even though I haven't done any intense work with them. Same principle with strapping.
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    12-07-2012, 10:49 AM
  #30
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Originally Posted by Reno Bay    
I think the thing is it's not just one session and you don't do it ever again. That wouldn't do anything...
Doesn't matter. First, you don't build strength by muscle twitches. You need to contract the muscle, and do it over a range of motion. The exercise physiology text I have says, IIRC, that muscle strength is only improved +/- 15 degrees of the position the limb is in. So if you do a bicep curl to 15 deg, then you have had some effect on the muscle when moving between 0 & 30 deg. And that is a muscle under load, not twitching.

Second, twitching a muscle 20 times would do less than using under a load one time. With humans, twitching a muscle for 20-30 minutes straight can help an invalid - assuming repeated sessions over weeks and months. But there is a reason that most athletes don't bother to hook themselves up to electrodes and have their muscles twitch while watching TV - it doesn't work. Not if your goal is getting stronger.

It may or may not feel good to a horse. It won't build strength or muscle.
     

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