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  • Proper way to thread a chain for halter class
  • Is it ok to use your hands to square your horse in a halter class

 
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    01-24-2011, 10:22 AM
  #11
Yearling
A nose chain should never be placed under the chin. The reason being if placed there the horse could respond by throwing it's head up or even rearing if used even slightly. Also the nose chain should be brought over and under the nose of the halter one time. The first thing I saw was that your horse's hind legs were not squared up evenly. That is something you can work on at home in practice sessions. In your practice sessions to get the horse to square up behind is to back the horse a step or two until the hind legs are even. To square up the front legs use the lead to bring which ever leg needs to come forward. Also if you didn't clip the hairs at the coronet band of the hooves that would give a more well turned out look. For muddy conditions the hooves and legs could be gone over with a damp cloth or stiff brush to remove some or most of the mud just before entering the ring/arena. For your horse's mane and tail you can "bang" the tail just enough to get it all one length. The mane would look better either banded or beaded. Banding would probably be easier with your horse's thick mane. There are banding rubber bands and banding tools available at Tack Stores or in Catalogs.

The reply posted with video of how to present your horse to a judge is very good and informative to watch. The easiest way to remember where you position yourself for a viewing judge is to *never* get between your horse and the judge. Always present your horse between you and the judge.

Most of all, don't let your disappointment in your placing at that show stop you from keeping at doing it. Here are some for you.
     
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    01-24-2011, 05:26 PM
  #12
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by workingtrot    
There is a good thread about the Quarter Method here: The Quarter Method


Remember that in a SHOWMANSHIP class, grooming AND presentation count, so you're being judged on the whole picture -- how you complete the entire pattern and how you present yourself and your horse (with confidence, and a SMILE helps!) counts, as well as having the horse groomed to within an inch of her life.

In a HALTER class, the horse is judged on conformation and suitability, so all the elbow grease and showsheen in the world won't help if your horse is not the right type!

Another note, though it's been a while since I've shown western, so someone else may need to chime in -- I believe if you use a stud chain it's supposed to go under the chin instead of over the nose.
it was over her nose in the pic because we needed her to be still and behave because the was a lot of exciting things going on around (first show) lol she acutally got loose and was running and bucking untill someone pinned her in the ring. Hehe
     
    01-24-2011, 05:28 PM
  #13
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by candandy49    
A nose chain should never be placed under the chin. The reason being if placed there the horse could respond by throwing it's head up or even rearing if used even slightly. Also the nose chain should be brought over and under the nose of the halter one time. The first thing I saw was that your horse's hind legs were not squared up evenly. That is something you can work on at home in practice sessions. In your practice sessions to get the horse to square up behind is to back the horse a step or two until the hind legs are even. To square up the front legs use the lead to bring which ever leg needs to come forward. Also if you didn't clip the hairs at the coronet band of the hooves that would give a more well turned out look. For muddy conditions the hooves and legs could be gone over with a damp cloth or stiff brush to remove some or most of the mud just before entering the ring/arena. For your horse's mane and tail you can "bang" the tail just enough to get it all one length. The mane would look better either banded or beaded. Banding would probably be easier with your horse's thick mane. There are banding rubber bands and banding tools available at Tack Stores or in Catalogs.

The reply posted with video of how to present your horse to a judge is very good and informative to watch. The easiest way to remember where you position yourself for a viewing judge is to *never* get between your horse and the judge. Always present your horse between you and the judge.

Most of all, don't let your disappointment in your placing at that show stop you from keeping at doing it. Here are some for you.
that was a picture before the class so I don't know if her legs were squared or not and when you were saying use the lead to square the front legs what do you mean??? And I just banged her tail two days ago and i'm going to pull her mane. Thank you! :)
     
    01-24-2011, 05:45 PM
  #14
Foal
First of all, if you are showing the Quarter System. The basis behind it is safety, that is where is orignated from. When the judge is in the front area of your horse (in front of the withers) you are on the opposite side. When the judge is inspecting the hindquarters, you are on the SAME side. The idea here is, if you horse kicked, you could pull on the lead and the hind end would go in the opposite direction of the judge.

Halter class is based on conformation, form to function, breed and sex characteristics.

Grooming: Hoof black, if you are planning to pull/band mane make sure it is not too long, Ultra is a good product to get a nice shine. Your horse should also stand square. In a HALTER class you may use your hands to place the feet to prepare (don't take up the judge time though and make them wait too long). In showmanship you are NOT to touch your horses feet or place them with your hands.

Chains should ideally go underneath the chin

It is hard to know why you were last, without seeing the other horses in the class. It is a comparison. These are only tips to help improve your presentation!

Check out my website to join in on conversations directed towards specific events and even submit a photo for an online halter class!
     
    01-24-2011, 10:25 PM
  #15
Super Moderator
I know nothing about halter showing. But, the halter is too big, true.
I think the horse is adorable, but looks a bit overweight. Maybe you should go English? She/he would look fabulous in an English saddle. More "pony-like".
     
    01-24-2011, 10:35 PM
  #16
Green Broke
Quote:
Originally Posted by candandy49    
A nose chain should never be placed under the chin. The reason being if placed there the horse could respond by throwing it's head up or even rearing if used even slightly. Also the nose chain should be brought over and under the nose of the halter one time. The first thing I saw was that your horse's hind legs were not squared up evenly. That is something you can work on at home in practice sessions. In your practice sessions to get the horse to square up behind is to back the horse a step or two until the hind legs are even. To square up the front legs use the lead to bring which ever leg needs to come forward. Also if you didn't clip the hairs at the coronet band of the hooves that would give a more well turned out look. For muddy conditions the hooves and legs could be gone over with a damp cloth or stiff brush to remove some or most of the mud just before entering the ring/arena. For your horse's mane and tail you can "bang" the tail just enough to get it all one length. The mane would look better either banded or beaded. Banding would probably be easier with your horse's thick mane. There are banding rubber bands and banding tools available at Tack Stores or in Catalogs.

The reply posted with video of how to present your horse to a judge is very good and informative to watch. The easiest way to remember where you position yourself for a viewing judge is to *never* get between your horse and the judge. Always present your horse between you and the judge.

Most of all, don't let your disappointment in your placing at that show stop you from keeping at doing it. Here are some for you.

The chain must go UNDER the chin. Over is a big no no in halter.
     
    01-24-2011, 10:51 PM
  #17
Started
Banding the mane is a big one, looking good yourself, smiling, walking and standing straight, presenting the horse like you are proud to own the horse all make an awesome picture. I honestly have no idea about the whole judge and you placement thing, as I've never done a showmanship class, though I do want to do a halter class with my Arabian some day. I also agree about the halter being too big for the horse which doesn't present a very good picture. I would definitely practice at home as well, make sure that if they ask you to trot, that as soon as you ask for the trot, and start going yourself, that your horse follows instantly, no 3 steps of walk then an "okay maybe I'll trot". Make sure that she is right at your shoulder, not behind you or in front of you as well when you are moving. Good luck, and definitely keep trying, the more practice you get both at home, and at a show, the better you will both become.
     
    01-25-2011, 12:16 AM
  #18
Started
I have only done one halter class (and it was with my pony) but everyone (including myself) had the chain UNDER the chin. I can't recall any of the others having them over....the chain was so long I had to double it on the side haha
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    01-25-2011, 12:26 AM
  #19
Banned
Start with hoof black. You would be shocked the difference it makes.

For the mane, thin by pulling. You may want to shorten the mane itself a bit. Band the mane. It takes for-ev-er but the result is very pretty and very very neat.

Your horse isn't standing square. Practice this a ton at home. While setting up, I use the command "Set" and when the horse is set say "Stand". You want your horse to be square so that they judge can really get a good grasp of your horses conformation.

For a big time show, you will want to learn Quarters. For a smaller show, start small. You never want to get in the way to the judges view on your horse but you want the judge to be able to see you.

Smile, make sure you are making a good impression. Be prepared for the judge to say 'good morning' or 'hello'. Respond in a friendly, not nervous way!
     
    01-25-2011, 08:11 AM
  #20
Yearling
I am sorry I gave wrong info on the placing of a nose chain for halter classes. About using the lead to square up the front feet: If say for instance, the left foot needs to come forward a tiny bit to be even with the right one direct the horse's head slightly to the right with the lead that is asking for the left foot to come forward. Just the opposite if the right foot needs to come forward a little bit, direct the head slightly to the left. Hope this helps.
     

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