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post #11 of 54 Old 11-26-2009, 10:07 PM
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I agree - personal preference, decided upon:
1. Whether they show
2. How much they want to put into maintence of mane

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post #12 of 54 Old 11-26-2009, 10:18 PM
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Pulled manes all started back in the 1500's when fox hunting started. The manes were pulled and braided so that at a high speed the mane was not caught on any branches. Since most of the english disciplines that we ride today (hunters, jumpers) originated from fox hunting, the tradition has been passed on and is recognized as part of the sport. It also looks neater and more presentable, and shows off how the horse carries it's neck.

Some people just do it because they like it, and other's have horses like mine with manes so thick that they grow on both sides of the neck and you can't run your fingers through it, so it is more managable to just keep it short.

If you're not showing and don't care to pull it, then it isn't in any sense cruel to leave it long. It's just personal preference.

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well I pull my horses mane because it gets in the way all of the time and it is better then cutting it becauseit groes back better and it looks better but there mane still looks good. If you like her mane nice and long then keep it long it doesnt matter as long as you are happy.

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It does have to do with breed standards, that doesn't mean it can't vary with discipline. You expect TB's to have pulled manes, I can't remember the last TB I saw without it pulled, but not a Morgan or an Arab or a Friesian. Kind of like Arabs have really LONG bridle paths, and say, the QH is only to the end of the ear folded back. And kind of like some breeds you trim up the feathers, but you'd be considered insane to trim up the feathers of a draft. It's also like keeping a Fjords mane in a mohawk. Just like show dogs need to be "trimmed up" just so. Breed standards all the way. Because someone a long time ago decided it looked better that way.

Show me any breed standard that talks about how a horses mane should look. There is not one. I have been showing horses for over 15 years. It is more discipline related then breed related. I have QH. They all have long manes and I do not cut bridle paths. They win. I have also shown AQHA Halter with long manes. They do quite well considering they are not halter horses.

Like I said I have seen H/J with long manes that when down are past their shoulder.

As for dogs. Again no breed standard. Dogs are trimmed in a certain way to accentuate certain attributes. Clean up areas and make they look clean. It is just being well groomed. Again shown dogs for years. These are just things people do to help them win. Makes it look like you care about your animals appearance.


Same with manes. Again comes down to personal preference and what type of event you show. In my event the norm is long manes and most do not cut bridle paths. Which I happen to like.

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Personal preference I say. I LOVE Zu's mane long. It's getting so long right now, so happy. It's super thick too, same with his tail. I'm going to let it grow until it gets too hot (we're in FL) than I'll pull it just for his sake, to keep him cool.
Actually that has been found to be a misnomer. The mane of a horse will help regulate the horses temp. If you leave it long you will find that is actually helps keep him cooler as it keeps the sun off his neck and off the area of blood flow to the head. All mine have very long thick manes and although we are not in FL we do get temps of very close to 100 and with the heat index even higher.

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My boy has a lovely thick tail, everyone says its great! :)

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Show me any breed standard that talks about how a horses mane should look. There is not one. I have been showing horses for over 15 years. It is more discipline related then breed related. I have QH. They all have long manes and I do not cut bridle paths. They win. I have also shown AQHA Halter with long manes. They do quite well considering they are not halter horses.

Like I said I have seen H/J with long manes that when down are past their shoulder.

As for dogs. Again no breed standard. Dogs are trimmed in a certain way to accentuate certain attributes. Clean up areas and make they look clean. It is just being well groomed. Again shown dogs for years. These are just things people do to help them win. Makes it look like you care about your animals appearance.


Same with manes. Again comes down to personal preference and what type of event you show. In my event the norm is long manes and most do not cut bridle paths. Which I happen to like.

::rolls eyes:: Whatever. I'm not going to argue with you.

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nrhareiner- there are dog standards with hair, some dogs have to be corded, some have to be never cut except when it gets WAY to long etc.

And some breeds do have standards. I have seen it. And I highly doubt a horse would do well(ie- placing in top three at highly rated shows) at hunters with a long mane.

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post #19 of 54 Old 11-26-2009, 11:23 PM
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::rolls eyes:: Whatever. I'm not going to argue with you.

Not arguing it is fact. If you can show me in a breeds standard where it states how a mane should be I would love to see it. What a breed dose in a show ring it not what make a breed standard. It is what people do to show off the attributes of the horse and make them look better and show better. That dose not make it a breed standard.

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nrhareiner- there are dog standards with hair, some dogs have to be corded, some have to be never cut except when it gets WAY to long etc.

Yes there are standards on dog breeds as to color and certain other things when it comes to their hair but NOT how a dog is trimmed.


And some breeds do have standards. I have seen it. And I highly doubt a horse would do well(ie- placing in top three at highly rated shows) at hunters with a long mane.
Again DISCIPLINE related not breed related. There is a difference.


Here is the breed standard for Goldens one of the breeds I show. As you can see it states you can trim stray hairs but coat should not be altered but cutting or clipping. I will tell you that there are areas of the dog that do get clipped and cut past the feet.

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Dense and water-repellent with good undercoat. Outer coat firm and resilient, neither coarse nor silky, lying close to body; may be straight or wavy. Untrimmed natural ruff; moderate feathering on back of forelegs and on underbody; heavier feathering on front of neck, back of thighs and underside of tail. Coat on head, paws, and front of legs is short and even. Excessive length, open coats, and limp, soft coats are very undesirable. Feet may be trimmed and stray hairs neatened, but the natural appearance of coat or outline should not be altered by cutting or clipping.

The Poodle is one of the fed breeds of dogs that sets as part of their standard who a dog MUST be trimmed in a conformation class.

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