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post #31 of 48 Old 10-26-2011, 12:27 AM
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Advice which would have you in jail or facing a stiff fine - let alone a possible law suit.

Talking about all the problems that the dogs are giving you really doesn't accomplish anything. If you think it's unsafe and the BO isn't going to do anything about it, then leave. Simple. It's her place, not yours.

Ummmm, I wasn't complaining, just said I'd have shot the dog. And in OK anyone's dog who chases or attacks livestock is totally liable to be shot with NO repercussion on the shooter. Folks around here do not take kindly to loose dogs harrying the livestock.

Oh and yes, I would have moved the first time I saw the dog harrying anything, not waited til it got my horse.

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If I where to leave, what example would that set for my friends at the barn? I also just got him moved to this barn to work with my trainer and accidents happened, I got a kind appolgy email and call from the BO this morning. My horse was not bit by this dog, simply spooked and in a bad place when it happened, also keep in mine he is only 5 and only had one year of human handling so it's a very natural reaction for my horse, I am not going to take away the amazing training he is getting, along with lots of pasture turnout (hard to find in my area!)

He isn't scared of cross ties even after this, dogs will be dogs and horses will be horses. So thing that is out of some people's hands
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post #33 of 48 Old 10-26-2011, 05:20 AM
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And in OK anyone's dog who chases or attacks livestock is totally liable to be shot with NO repercussion on the shooter. Folks around here do not take kindly to loose dogs harrying the livestock.
Even on the owner's property?

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post #34 of 48 Old 10-26-2011, 06:40 AM
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Oh my gosh! Poor horse :( I would have been so pissed ......

This is exactly why I use just regular baling twine for cross ties. It doesn't look all that pretty, but it is guaranteed to snap and there is nothing heavy on the end to hit them on the recoil.
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post #35 of 48 Old 10-26-2011, 08:31 AM
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That's why I ground tie. I find if the horse has the option to leave, he stays. Horses in cross ties have flipped over backwards and smashed their withers. I'd rather mine took off out the barn door because he won't go far.
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Sorry this happened!

Didn't read all of the posts so forgive me if I repeat something. Lol

Have you tried attaching string to his halter? I do this to my mare's halter and I've never had her have an incident like that and she pulls back all the time. Just get some bailing twine and loop it around on the sides of the halter. Then he'll break the string, not the halter or the crossties!

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Thanks for sharing your story, I'm sorry this happened to you and your horse.
Thanks for everyone's suggestions on how to prevent this from happening. While I have never had problems in crossties and mine are made of adjustable strapping with safty snaps, this morning I am adding twine to halter ends. Your incident might save my horse. Again thanks for sharing.
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Ummmm, I wasn't complaining, just said I'd have shot the dog. And in OK anyone's dog who chases or attacks livestock is totally liable to be shot with NO repercussion on the shooter. Folks around here do not take kindly to loose dogs harrying the livestock.

Oh and yes, I would have moved the first time I saw the dog harrying anything, not waited til it got my horse.
Here in Germany if a forestmeister or farmer sees a dog attacking or DISTURBING wildlife/livestock they can shoot to kill with no repercussions. I agree with Dreamcatcher, if the dog was coming towards it, I'd have aimed a good ol' boot at it to get it away from my horse.

Perhaps my termanology isn't the best? Is cross ties where you tie your horse up either side? I have to do this with my mare as she is too long to stand attached to one side, and I don't trust her as yet to let her go. I use one dog clip style lead rope, and another quick release. She had learnt a quick tug would free her, so, she can get off the quick release, but then she's stuck. She now knows not to. We're not allowed to use bailing twine, however I am looking to invest in those wee quick release strap things, so I tie her up in a leather headcollar. Nylon ones won't break in an emergency...
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My BO has........six dogs? But there are usually seven or eight at the barn from other boarders.

Luckily they are all pretty well-behaved around the horses. Occasionally I'll see one of the Australian Shepards chasing a horse, but it's rare.

The goats, on the other hand......
THOSE THINGS are the ones that freak out the horses. I was leading Sun through the barn aisle the other day and Max, the male goat, reared up and hit Sunny on the side with his horns! And the little goat, Ginger, rubs her horns and Sun's legs.

They're cute goats, but Sunny hates them with good reason.
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We used cross ties without incident for years....till one day Beauseant spooked at...something and flipped out....nearly broke his neck before the cross tie snapped.

We passed it off as a once in a lifetime occurance....till he had another incident. He still has his wolf teeth for some reason, and he chews on the snaps of the crossties sometimes, and one day he hooked one of his wolf teeth in the snap and flipped out again....this time nearly pulled the tooth out, it was all bloody....

So, we don't use them on him anymore....

He and epona are learning to stand for their grooming. Without being tied at all

As for dogs, our property owner has two. A boarder collie who is outside alot, and an american spitz mini who is rarely outside.... The spitz has learned to avoid the horses after Beau reared up and nearly squashed him for barking at him...

The boarder collie ...she's weird. Usually she ignores the horses but often will run along the fence or sit by the fence with her ball and bark at Beau, trying to get him to play with her.... he has chased her when she came in his pasture, so she usually wont go in when he's there.

The neighbors have an ancient black lab who comes over to visit. He is as docile as a lamb....never barks or chases....but Beau HATES him as he hates all dogs.....and has kicked him in the side once. The dog just grunted and stood there staring at him... so when he comes over, we keep the paddock gate shut so he cannot get into the horse pasture.... and he is too fat to fit through the fencing. He's old, and very slow....and we worry about his safety
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