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post #1 of 6 Old 02-21-2013, 06:18 PM Thread Starter
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1-2 degree rotation in hoof...

So I've had a few threads talking about this.

I just got my new horse in November. Paid $2500 for him to later find out that he has foundered before.

Anyway. Vet said it was only a 1-2 degree of rotation and the other hoof had some lipping and very very minor arthritis starting. Great....

Farrier came out today and I showed him the X-rays. He said the 1/2 degree of rotation is very minor but judging by my guys feet he was very lame at one point. And he's going to need shoes come spring time if I'm going to ride him.

The vet never flat out said to me 'he's foundered' so I didn't think the 1/2 degrees was foundering. Now I've never delt with a horse who's foundered before. I'm currently switching him to a RB and he will be muzzled all spring/summer.

My questions are- how bad is a 1/2 degree rotation and what do I need I look out for and keep an eye on? I know obvious the grass and don't let him get overweight. But, how should I muzzle him? My vet said to keep continuing to muzzle him the same as I did with my pony mare. I muzzled from 5am-2/3pm and left it off til morning again.

I will be moving him next week to a barn who has a 3 acre paddock with 3 other horses which gets pretty grazed down. Then they put up a round bale. Should I continue the same schedule as above? (It would be from about 8/8:30 am-3:30/4pm) and then leave it off all night? Or muzzle 24/7? How anal should I be about muzzling and such? I mean I am going to muzzle all spring/summer but am wondering how long to do so and such.
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Muzzle during the day and off at night is my recommendation. If he is overweight, I would be strict about the muzzling considering he has foundered in the past.

I'm not under the belief he will NEED shoes because he has a 1-2 degree rotation. It's not a severe rotation but regardless rotation IS reversable. I would check out Pete Ramey's website www.hoofrehab.com there are some excellent articles on there and I believe there is one about reversing the rotation in a foundered horse. Of course these cases are a lot more severe then 1-2 degrees of rotation. There is a scientific paper in the works of doing so.

There are a lot of things I would do before I stuck shoes on a horse. I would begin with a trim every 4-5 weeks based on the wild horse model. I would soak for deep thrush. I would have the horses diet evaluated and balanced. I would have them on a natural turnout situation for maxmimum movement. Oh and being patient is key. I would also use hoof boots before I used shoes. These will provide protection, traction and keep the horse comfortable while allowing the horse to have the benefits of being barefoot.

That's just my two cents.

It's not hoof problems that hinder my horse anymore. It's arthritis of his hocks. A gelding that went from not being pasture sound because of navicular and laminitis to fully ridable and trail rides through rocky terrain without shoes or hoof boots. I won't use shoes unless I HAVE to ... but I will exhaust other options first.
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I believe the shoes isn't from the rotation but because he's foot sore without them.
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He's footsore because the rotation hasn't been taken care of. I agree with Pete Randy's website, also Bare Foot Horse is a good one to learn about founder, what causes it, how to trim, nutrition, everything.
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I would post some pictures of his feet up on the forum to get some insight. I'm not saying its a bad farrier but its a possibility its the trim causing him to be sore...

There are things I would still do before throwing shoes on. Assess the trim. Assess the diet and ensure its balanced. Soak with white lightening for thrush. Maximum movement. If its only certain terrain that he's foot sore then hoof boots can be a great (and cheaper) alternative to shoes.

I don't want to diss the farrier trimming him but in my experience some farriers can do a great job on one horse but not so great on another... it was actually the trim by a certain farrier that made my gelding so lame he wouldn't even move in the pasture.

I mean, its certainly your horse and your call but that's what I would do before I put shoes on.
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I did post pix. I just got him and got X-rays on him and am now changing diet and my farrier trimmed him yesterday after looking at the X-rays. Ill try and take updated pix of his feet
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