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        01-22-2009, 10:10 PM
    Definitely take pictures as evidence and call your local animal control immediately. You can call the sherrifs office and they can put you through to animal right away.
    It even would be easier to actually GO to the sherrifs office in person, show them the pictures, and basically say this is whats going on and what are you going to do about it.
    I had to do this a couple years ago, these people had a similar situation as you, but they had 33 horses on less than an acre of land. It was terrible. We ended up taking 3 of them (1 of them eventually had to be put down because of a terrible respitory infection and the other 2 were adopted into good homes.)
    It took a little bit of bothering on my end but eventually the sherrifs department did something about it. And I feel very proud of myself for saving those horses that are in need. They all went to good rescue homes and got some major TLC and then were adopted out.
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        01-22-2009, 11:14 PM
    I do agree with everyone above.. have you said anything to the owner to see if maybe she needs help and to embarassed to ask it does happen . If she doesnt see a problem then I would take pictures and got to the authorities
    I had a friend in simalar situation except for cows she confronted the owner cause they were on a acre lot with no food grass or water told him he had a week or she was goin to turn him in. She went back by a week later nothing had changed and so she went and got her trailer and basically stole the animals(i know not a good thing) but anyway left a note saying how to get a hold of her and that he was more then welcome to bring the county sheriff by her place.. Needless to say she got 2 cows and 2 calfs
        01-23-2009, 11:13 AM
    I have honestly tried my best to help her work out something! Like a stalling schedule with 5 horses in, 1 horse in the round lot, 5 horses in the big lot. And then switch the 5 that's in and the 5 that's out, and to give them at least some sort of grain. Even if she just bought oats by the ton. (its cheaper like that) But she doesnt want to hear it because it makes for more work for her. One of her horses wont stay in a stall so there would be no reason why she couldnt rotate the other 10. She says she don't have the money but yet they keep coming up with the money to buy another horse. :-/
        01-23-2009, 12:20 PM
    Originally Posted by luvs2ride1979    
    Take pictures, LOTS Of pictures. Take photos of the horses, the fencing, the entire lot if you can. Email those photos to any rescues in your state, your local sheriff, your local police, your local humane society (even if they don't do large animals). If you don't get any response, or very little response, then I would send the address, the story, and all of the photos to as many news media as you can (newspaper and TV).

    This is really good advice at it works. Two years ago there was a man and his wife who had 20 horses, a but load of dogs and some goats, all of them in horrible condition. The neighbores contacted the authorities but all they did was warn them a couple times, never following through. Animal control was no good either. Finally someone sent the pictures into WTVM and they did a report on it, sent a van out and everything. Within a week and a half all the animals were taken to rescues throughout the state. Good luck, I can not stant people who abuse animals like that.
        01-23-2009, 04:51 PM
    Try getting the local vet involved. That's how I ended up with one of my tbreds who was imaciated. Good luck.
        01-23-2009, 05:05 PM
    Oats aren't going to fix anything. Call the sherrif's dept and have them come out to your place and visit with them about the conditions. They will have to check up on the situation and if they don't do anything do as the others have suggested here and take pictures and get the local news involved.
        01-28-2009, 01:10 PM
    I hope you were able to report this. How terrible for those poor horses.
        01-29-2009, 03:33 AM
    OK, OK whoaaa.....

    I don't wanna be the "nay sayer", and from what I hear, it sounds like a bad condition there.

    Now I'm SURE I'm going to get flack about this...but here it goes.

    ::Stands and scolds everyone but RebelAppy:: Just jump right to calling the sherrif?? That's definitely not the right way to handle this. NOone benefits when you pull something like that. I'm not defending the owner at all (trust me, it sickens me!), but if you jump to this step - now you are jepordising you friendship/relationship with the owner - plus you are earning the tag of being a "dime dropper" or a "snitch" - now the community itself has a grey opinion on you. So what happens after that? The owner loses her horses, putting a sour taste in her mouth - and who's to say she won't just up and buy more horses....it starts all over again. Then where do these horses go? I don't know about everyone elses area, but 'round here the horses taken by intervention will go to 1 of 2 stables/rescue/shelter farms - already over crowded/underfunded - not to mention, for the most part - unwanted.

    Rebel has the right idea (and it sounds like you may have already gone this route kinda sorta - good for you!!) Talk to the owner. I don't mean show up unexpectedly and happen to mention "Wow, your yard is pretty mucky". If that doesn't help, then take more evasive manuvers.

    Here's what I would do. Make a time to go to meet with this offending owner - BRING someone else with you - preferably that knowledgeable about horses. This creates a peer pressure element, it's no longer one on one. Don't beet around the bush. Tell her that these conditions worry you, and something needs (not should), needs to be done. If still undaunted by the two of you, embelish the truth a bit - "There's talk amongst the neighbors of the poor conditions here, even talk of getting animal welfare involved. I'd hate to see you lose your horses" and give her an firm belief of what should be done - "Maybe, it would be best if you got rid of a few of these guys" or "What can we do to help, something needs to be done." Be firm, but not rude, at the same time, make IT CLEAR that something has to be done. And don't screw around -shoot down the "Well, I get money next month, maybey I'll buy a bag of sweet feed" comments.

    If this fails - absolutly get animal welfare involved. I don't know about the sherrifs dept - they may be of assistance, but animal welfare will be the say all know all in that situation.

    In short - don't be afraid to get athorities envolved...just make sure you go about it in the right way. Please.
        01-29-2009, 03:45 AM
    OK, after re-reading my post....I kinda sounded like a meaney there...sorry everybody. Just venting.

    This topic really hit home. JUSt the other day (sunday) the sherrif dept stopped out at my place. Asked if I had horses at xxxxaddress, started badgering about if they were taken care of...proper places for shelter...the whole 9 yards. Then he goes on to ask if there were dead animals in the pasture. Someone called in, and complained of "2 dead horses in the feild - a black with brown one and a yellow one" First thing I thought was...that matches MY 2 HORSES!!! NOOOO!

    Well, I beat the cop over to the barn (got yelled at for speeding a bit ) I pulled in the driveway, to see Thunder (black/brown) and Nelson (yellow) laying - sleeping in the feild. The cop walks up, we walk out in the feild, and of course they get up and want attention. Long story made short - cop saw absolutly nothing wrong, and almost seemed preturbed by being called out there.

    ANYWAYS, I'm sure this isn't the case in your situation, but this topic kinda hit home here.

    BTW - if you get pulled over round these parts by a county cop that has chew marks on his hat...think nothin of it! (Thunder likes guys in uniform!)
        01-29-2009, 05:39 PM
    Ruby Tuesday, it sounds like she has tried to help this woman, but to no avail. Her next step should be animal control or the police department. Anyone! If it were me and I had tried to help and they didn't listen, I wouldn't care about my relationship with them at that point. They are doing something morally and criminally wrong. It's my job to report it. She doesn't have to be nasty about it, she can just say she was very concerned. Heck, she doesn't even have to give her name, she can report it anonymously if she wants. The important thing is that she did try to help but it hasn't worked and now she wants to take it to the next step. In this case, the animals' welfare is the most important thing.

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